[Team Vote] Various updates to the Xubuntu Seed

Thu Jul 29 20:17:43 UTC 2021

Hi Unit193,

Regarding your objection to gnome-chess due to it possibly having GTK4, i'm
assuming even without if it weren't included that GTK4 would still come
through based on what Sean mentioned in his recent blog post, "GNOME 40 and
GTK 4 are starting to land, so there's a strong likelihood that GTK 4
components will make their way into Xubuntu."[1]

[1] https://bluesabre.org/2021/07/29/xubuntu-21-10-dev-update/

Regards,
Yousuf

On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 5:13 AM Unit 193 <unit193 at ubuntu.com> wrote:

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> Howdy,
>
> Sorry for my delayed response.
>
> ~Unit 193
> Unit193 @ Libera
> Unit193 @ OFTC
>
> On Wed, 21 Jul 2021, Sean Davis wrote:
>
> > Thanks Simon. With that, we're only missing votes from Unit193. It looks
> like baobab and xfce4-clipman-plugin have enough positive votes that one
> more
> > negative vote won't derail them, so I will move those forward.
> >
> > Add baobab:
> > +1 Myself
> > +1 Yousuf
> > +1 Krytarik
> > +0 Lyz
> > +0 Pasi
> > -1 Simon
> > ?? Unit193
> > =2 OK
> +0
>
> > Add xfce4-appmenu-plugin:
> > +0 Myself
> > +1 Yousuf
> > +0 Krytarik
> > +0 Lyz
> > +0 Pasi
> > +0 Simon
> > ?? Unit193
> > =1 PENDING
> - -1
>
> This is vala based, historically has a bad track record of API breaks.  I
> don't
> think we want to get stuck having to fix this.
>
>
> > Add xfce4-clipman-plugin:
> > +0 Myself
> > +1 Yousuf
> > +1 Krytarik
> > +0 Lyz
> > -1 Pasi
> > +1 Simon
> > ?? Unit193
> > =2 OK
> +0
>
> > Remove gnome-mines gnome-sudoku, Add four-in-a-row gnome-chess
> gnome-nibbles quadrapassel:
> > +1 Myself
> > +1 Yousuf
> > -1 Krytarik
> > +1 Lyz
> > -1 Pasi
> > +0 Simon
> > ?? Unit193
> > =1 PENDING
> - -1
>
> Here I am specifically objecting to gnome-chess, if that were removed from
> the
> proposal I'd give an +1.  I am concerned that these will very soon be
> pulling
> in GTK4 though.
>
> > On Tue, Jul 20, 2021, at 9:45 AM, Simon Steinbeiss wrote:
> >       Hi everyone,
> >
> > a little late to the party, but here we go:
> >
> >  -1 for Baobab (since we have gnome-disk-utility already)
> > +0 for xfce4-appmenu-plugin
> > +1 for xfce4-clipman-plugin
> > +0 for the games
> >
> > Cheers
> > Simon
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 16, 2021 at 11:27 AM Sean Davis <sean at bluesabre.org> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Pasi. That's a good point. Since Rhythmbox is in, Pragha is out.
> Now we just wait for Simon and Unit193 to decide the fate of the last
> > ones.
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 16, 2021, at 4:25 AM, Pasi Lallinaho wrote:
> >       Here's my votes for the yet unsettled ones:
> >
> > +0 for Baobab
> > -1 for Pragha (since we're already installing Rhythmbox)
> > +0 for xfce4-appmenu-plugin
> > -1 for xfce4-clipman-plugin
> > -1 for the games change
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Pasi
> >
> > --
> > Pasi Lallinaho (knome)         › https://open.knome.fi/
> > Xubuntu contributor            › https://xubuntu.org/
> > Xfce contributor               › https://xfce.org/
> > Shimmer Project co-founder     › https://shimmerproject.org/
> > On 16.7.2021 4.37, Sean Davis wrote:
> >       It looks like we have enough votes to call some of these:
> >
> > Add gnome-disk-utility:
> > +1 Myself
> > +1 Yousuf
> > +1 Krytarik
> > +1 Liz
> > OK!
> >
> > Add baobab:
> > +1 Myself
> > +1 Yousuf
> > +1 Krytarik
> > +0 Liz
> >
> > Add rhythmbox:
> > +1 Myself
> > +1 Yousuf
> > +1 Krytarik
> > +1 Liz
> > OK!
> >
> > Add pragha:
> > +0 Myself
> > +0 Yousuf
> > +0 Krytarik
> > +0 Liz
> >
> > Add xfce4-appmenu-plugin:
> > +0 Myself
> > +1 Yousuf
> > +0 Krytarik
> > +0 Liz
> >
> > Add xfce4-clipman-plugin:
> > +0 Myself
> > +1 Yousuf
> > +1 Krytarik
> > +0 Liz
> >
> > Remove gnome-mines gnome-sudoku, Add four-in-a-row gnome-chess
> gnome-nibbles quadrapassel:
> > +1 Myself
> > +1 Yousuf
> > -1 Krytarik
> > +1 Liz
> >
> > Remove Pidgin:
> > +1 Myself
> > +1 Yousuf
> > +1 Krytarik
> > +1 Liz
> > OK!
> >
> > We'll proceed with adding gnome-disk-utility and rhythmbox, while
> removing Pidgin. Thanks everybody voting so far!
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 15, 2021, at 9:18 PM, Sean Davis wrote:
> >       I'm likewise in favor of removing Pidgin. Keep the votes coming! :)
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 15, 2021, at 7:54 PM, Elizabeth K. Joseph wrote:
> >       Thanks for collecting these in one place, Sean.
> >
> > +1 on gnome-disk-utility
> > +0 on baobab
> >
> > +1 on rhythmbox
> >
> > +0 for the additional plugins
> >
> > +1 for the games changes
> >
> > Finally, I'd also be for removing pidgin. The time has passed.
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 2:56 AM Sean Davis <sean at bluesabre.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hey everyone, long time no chat! :)
> >
> > There are a few discussions that have been opened up in recent months
> for changes to the seed. I wanted to
> > continue this discussion with some team votes so we can move forward.
> With each of the discussions I've linked
> > the original ML and bug reports.
> >
> > Xubuntu Team (https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-team/+members#active)
> currently has 7 active members, so any
> > proposal reaching 4 or more +1s from the team is approved. Please take
> some time soon to submit your votes so
> > we're not all waiting in anticipation.
> >
> > ---
> >
> > Addition of disk utilities (
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-meta/+bug/1934932,
> > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2020-March/011877.html)
> > - gnome-disk-utility
> > - baobab
> >
> > I'm personally +1 for both. Yousuf is also +1 as requester.
> >
> > ---
> >
> > Addition of music player (
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-meta/+bug/1934926,
> > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2021-May/012062.html)
> > - rhythmbox, or
> > - pragha
> >
> > I don't have a strong opinion here since I stream all of my music, but
> it looks like there is community interest
> > based on the mailing list. After installing both and doing a quick
> comparison, my preference would be for
> > rhythmbox.
> >
> > +1 rhythmbox
> > +0 pragha
> >
> > ---
> >
> > Clipman and Appmenu Plugin, installed but not added to panel by default
> > (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-meta/+bug/1934925,
> > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2021-April/012055.html)
> > - xfce4-appmenu-plugin
> > - xfce4-clipman-plugin
> >
> > I'm +0 for both. I don't think there's much utility to preinstalling
> these plugins. If we want to satisfy
> > installing them for the panel profiles app, we should extend the panel
> profiles app to download the missing
> > packages with PackageKit.
> >
> > Yousuf is +1 as requester.
> >
> > ---
> >
> > Games (
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-meta/+bug/1916991)
> >
> > Remove: gnome-mines gnome-sudoku
> > Add: four-in-a-row gnome-chess gnome-nibbles quadrapassel
> >
> > I'm +1 for these changes. Yousuf is also +1 as requester.
> >
> > ---
> >
> > Thanks everyone!
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> >
> >
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