[Ubuntu Chicago] Discussion about Windows

[Michael Wilson]

I have been playing with Windows 7 and had to recover the system last
night.  I got a new keyboard this week that came with key macro software.
It installed with no problems, but at the next boot into Windows, it started
having problems.  There was a convenient rollback option that fixed the
problem, but come on, a keyboard breaking the OS completely!!

Michael Wilson



On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Jim Campbell <jwcampbell at ubuntu.com>wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> Yes, it's kind of my fault for starting it with the reference to Windows in
> Grub, but I'm starting a new thread for the Windows discussion.
>
> On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 12:23 PM, George Lesica <glesica at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> But lawyers are a cautious bunch. Part of the problem is that most
>> users wouldn't uninstall the MS programs even if it was possible. Just
>> like many users choose IE because it's just right there. Therefore, MS
>> would be gaining market share in other markets (anti-virus, word
>> processing, etc.) through use of the marketing power it gets from its
>> OS. That could still be construed to be an anti-trust violation
>> because it could be seen as an attempt at a vertical monopoly.
>>
>> Also, other apps ARE bundled with windows by PC manufacturers. When
>> you buy a copy of windows at retail you are getting just that:
>> windows.
>>
>> What would be interesting is if MS would allow 3rd parties to create
>> windows "distros" where other (legally licensed of course) software is
>> bundled with windows to create a custom windows install consumers
>> could buy at retail.
>>
>> Of course that would just add to the confusion my mother feels when
>> she sees 14 versions of Vista on the shelves. And since MS tries to be
>> all things to all people they have to try to keep my mother happy by
>> reducing the choices available so she doesn't get confused.
>>
>> ~ George T. Lesica
>> glesica at gmail.com
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Michael McCune <mjmccune at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Microsoft would only bundle their programs with Windows and would not
>> > allow the PC manufacturer or end user to remove the bundled
>> > applications. If MS would allow other apps to be bundled with Windows
>> > and allowed bundled Windows apps to be removed, it would not have been a
>> > problem.
>> >
>> > George Lesica wrote:
>> >> On the other hand, part of the reason MS doesn't bundle more software
>> >> is that the government used that type of software bundling against
>> >> them in the anti-trust case. Even bundling IE is highly controversial
>> >> and the EU is considering making them totally strip it out.
>> >>
>> >> ~ George T. Lesica
>> >> glesica at gmail.com
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Michael McCune <mjmccune at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> That's the way Windows has always been. It didn't even have a browser
>> >>> until Windows 98.
>> >>>
>> >>> Randall Wilson wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> Oops. If it's any consolation, it's Windows 7 beta and, although very
>> >>>> smooth and nearly as pretty as Jaunty, is totally useless to me
>> except
>> >>>> for maybe testing things with IE 8. Did you guys know that a fresh
>> >>>> Windows install comes with nothing? I don't have time to sit around
>> all
>> >>>> day and download programs from random sites just to make my computer
>> work!
>> >>>> :)
>> >>>> -Randy
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Jim Campbell wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> Hi all,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Most of Randy's menu.list looked fine, but I would like to point out
>> >>>>> what is surely a major error in the file, though:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> # This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for a
>> >>>>> non-linux OS
>> >>>>> # on /dev/sda3
>> >>>>> title           Windows Vista/Longhorn (loader)
>> >>>>> rootnoverify    (hd0,2)
>> >>>>> savedefault
>> >>>>> makeactive
>> >>>>> chainloader     +1
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Surely this entry should be removed from the system, as it may
>> provide
>> >>>>> a backdoor for trojans and viruses of all kinds.  :-)
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Jim
>>
>
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