[Ubuntu Chicago] Discussion about Windows

[Eddie Martinez]

Ive dont that before using a ps/2 mouse in XP

On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Michael Wilson <mwilsonemt at gmail.com> wrote:
> I have been playing with Windows 7 and had to recover the system last
> night.  I got a new keyboard this week that came with key macro software.
> It installed with no problems, but at the next boot into Windows, it started
> having problems.  There was a convenient rollback option that fixed the
> problem, but come on, a keyboard breaking the OS completely!!
>
> Michael Wilson
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Jim Campbell <jwcampbell at ubuntu.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> Yes, it's kind of my fault for starting it with the reference to Windows
>> in Grub, but I'm starting a new thread for the Windows discussion.
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 12:23 PM, George Lesica <glesica at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> But lawyers are a cautious bunch. Part of the problem is that most
>>> users wouldn't uninstall the MS programs even if it was possible. Just
>>> like many users choose IE because it's just right there. Therefore, MS
>>> would be gaining market share in other markets (anti-virus, word
>>> processing, etc.) through use of the marketing power it gets from its
>>> OS. That could still be construed to be an anti-trust violation
>>> because it could be seen as an attempt at a vertical monopoly.
>>>
>>> Also, other apps ARE bundled with windows by PC manufacturers. When
>>> you buy a copy of windows at retail you are getting just that:
>>> windows.
>>>
>>> What would be interesting is if MS would allow 3rd parties to create
>>> windows "distros" where other (legally licensed of course) software is
>>> bundled with windows to create a custom windows install consumers
>>> could buy at retail.
>>>
>>> Of course that would just add to the confusion my mother feels when
>>> she sees 14 versions of Vista on the shelves. And since MS tries to be
>>> all things to all people they have to try to keep my mother happy by
>>> reducing the choices available so she doesn't get confused.
>>>
>>> ~ George T. Lesica
>>> glesica at gmail.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Michael McCune <mjmccune at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Microsoft would only bundle their programs with Windows and would not
>>> > allow the PC manufacturer or end user to remove the bundled
>>> > applications. If MS would allow other apps to be bundled with Windows
>>> > and allowed bundled Windows apps to be removed, it would not have been
>>> > a
>>> > problem.
>>> >
>>> > George Lesica wrote:
>>> >> On the other hand, part of the reason MS doesn't bundle more software
>>> >> is that the government used that type of software bundling against
>>> >> them in the anti-trust case. Even bundling IE is highly controversial
>>> >> and the EU is considering making them totally strip it out.
>>> >>
>>> >> ~ George T. Lesica
>>> >> glesica at gmail.com
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Michael McCune <mjmccune at gmail.com>
>>> >> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>> That's the way Windows has always been. It didn't even have a browser
>>> >>> until Windows 98.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Randall Wilson wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>> Oops. If it's any consolation, it's Windows 7 beta and, although
>>> >>>> very
>>> >>>> smooth and nearly as pretty as Jaunty, is totally useless to me
>>> >>>> except
>>> >>>> for maybe testing things with IE 8. Did you guys know that a fresh
>>> >>>> Windows install comes with nothing? I don't have time to sit around
>>> >>>> all
>>> >>>> day and download programs from random sites just to make my computer
>>> >>>> work!
>>> >>>> :)
>>> >>>> -Randy
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>> Jim Campbell wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>> Hi all,
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Most of Randy's menu.list looked fine, but I would like to point
>>> >>>>> out
>>> >>>>> what is surely a major error in the file, though:
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> # This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for a
>>> >>>>> non-linux OS
>>> >>>>> # on /dev/sda3
>>> >>>>> title           Windows Vista/Longhorn (loader)
>>> >>>>> rootnoverify    (hd0,2)
>>> >>>>> savedefault
>>> >>>>> makeactive
>>> >>>>> chainloader     +1
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Surely this entry should be removed from the system, as it may
>>> >>>>> provide
>>> >>>>> a backdoor for trojans and viruses of all kinds.  :-)
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>> Jim
>>
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