[xubuntu-users] Beginners Problem Intel 915 Chipset-vga

David Mooney moondoggy369 at mchsi.com
Fri Jan 25 12:20:20 UTC 2008


Ich war falsch.  Perhaps you can only run Windows and no other operating 
system on that laptop...?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <hesekiel2 at gmx.de>
To: "Xubuntu Help and User Discussions" <xubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 7:01 AM
Subject: Re: [xubuntu-users] Beginners Problem Intel 915 Chipset-vga


> Dieter lange from hamburg, germany..
> Hi again, david.
> As i wrote in my first 2 mails, itś an ASUS R2h UMPC....
> german ( Pal) edition , if there is an difference in Langualisation aND 
> VIDEO-OUT STANDARDS ..( YES, IT IST, BECAUSE OF GEMAN paL tv-COLOR -SYSTEM 
> !!! )
> oKAY, GAO NO TIME AT THE mOMENT TO WRITE MORE..
> tHE SCREEN IS NATIVE 800 X 480, UNDER WINDOWS, VIA SPECIAL INTEL DRIVER, A 
> LOT OF DIFERENT VIRTUAL SCREEN-RESOLUTIONS ARE SELECTABLE, NOT ALL OF THEM 
> REMEINING  CONGRUENT , i. e. usable TO THE TOUCHSCREEN DRIVER ...
>
> that meens, -terrible, but not yet bugfixed, as far as i know, that most 
> screenmodes have massive  offset pproblems between  screen and touchpad..
> no tool added, to fix that, i. e.. to adjust  offset issues... !!!
> windows , asus, & intel... a nonperfect -team !!!
> ubuntu hopefuly will perform better ?!?!
> At the very moment: not performing at all
> read ya ?
>
> dieter from Germany.. -------- Original-Nachricht --------
>> Datum: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 05:05:26 -0600
>> Von: "David Mooney" <moondoggy369 at mchsi.com>
>> An: "Xubuntu Help and User Discussions" <xubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
>> Betreff: Re: [xubuntu-users] Beginners Problem Intel 915 Chipset-vga
>
>> D.L-
>>
>> Another thing about the resolution: it's actually a split mode 
>> resolution,
>> not common, but not unusual either.  Normal modes would be 640/480 or
>> 800/600, not 800/480.  When having almost a 2/1 ratio on screen vertical
>> hold, it definitely complicates things.  Is there a way to switch the
>> resolution to 640/480 or 800/600 via BIOS or internally via (on/off)
>> switches or posts?  If I knew the exact make and model of your laptop I
>> might be able to help you configure it's hardware so that it will work
>> using
>> Xubuntu.  There's got to be a way...
>>
>> -David :D
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: <hesekiel2 at gmx.de>
>> To: "Xubuntu Help and User Discussions" <xubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 3:36 AM
>> Subject: Re: [xubuntu-users] Beginners Problem Intel 915 Chipset-vga
>>
>>
>> > Dieter ange, from Hamburg, germany ..hi, and thanx a lot, David Mooney 
>> > ,
>> >
>> > 1) Well, The CD- might be corrupt? !
>> > hmmm, maybe , but i dn think so . I might try it on another Computer,
>> not
>> > install, but as a live - cd .
>> > 2) intel Chipset-VGA- graphics !!!
>> > Well, yes, there might be severe issues, because intel ( always? ) uses
>> a
>> > so caled-softbios for their chipset-VGa .
>> > this means, as much, as i know ( not much !!!), that the normal vga-
>> bios
>> > 8on seperate card is missing totay, instead it integrated into standard
>> > bios-area.... The bios itself  knows , whre ( at which adress and such)
>> it
>> > own companion, the vga-part is located , but not xubuntu-
>> > hardware-detection ???  So, in windows, the Gui- ( and the direct-x )
>> > drivers have to replace the bios totally, especialy already fotr
>> > performance -issues and for the more highre screen- & colourdepth-
>> > solutions too...  The softbios then is, when the driver instals, 
>> > somehow
>> > linked to the driver and / or Gui ?!?!
>> > something like that.
>> > Although this is widely accepted  in OS-writers, OS- programmers, there
>> > migt be reminig ndrstanding-problems , or Intel doesn deliver proper
>> > information to these Guys ?!  Don know, but guessing ..
>> > 3) The unusual screensolution ?!
>> > maybe, the VGA-chipset-driver, de,ivered with xubuntu 7.10 only can ( 
>> > or
>> > does ) adrss the standard-extrenvga out socket properly, but cannot 
>> > deal
>> > with the ( maybe ? ) tricky combination between internal 800 x 480  and
>> > multimode externa VGA , which , at least under windows , can be set up,
>> to
>> > work either
>> > a) simultaniously , showing the same content, or:
>> > b) 2-screen mode, adding extra space ..
>> > c) 2-screen, showing the direct x-overlay seperately on screen 2, the
>> rest
>> > on nr. 1
>> > d) reversely
>> > e) the progs`s windows are shown in window, i. e. : screen  1) , the
>> prog
>> > results( workspace) window in window/ screen 2)
>> > There is even a seperate Video-out connector  that maybe also has to be
>> > adressed properly ?!
>> > The whole Situation, so,  maybe difficult and trickey ....
>> > Okay, all above wild theories...
>> > Since asus doesn answer to my email up to now, i might go to intels
>> > webpage and try there to find  info &/o driver and such ...
>> >
>> > thanx a lot up to now,
>> > best regards and good wishes go to You, dear david mooney,
>> > allways yours
>> > dieter lange
>> > -------- Original-Nachricht --------
>> >> Datum: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 16:16:46 -0600
>> >> Von: "David Mooney" <moondoggy369 at mchsi.com>
>> >> An: "Xubuntu Help and User Discussions"
>> <xubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
>> >> Betreff: Re: [xubuntu-users] Beginners Problem Intel 915 Chipset-vga
>> >
>> >> D.L.-
>> >>
>> >> This is normal for time time users.  I did it too, but I wasn't sure
>> what
>> >> I did to deserve such a thing LOL.  Anyways, when you make/burn the
>> >> Xubuntu
>> >> live CD, make sure to burn it at the LOWEST speed possible, usually 1x
>> >> will do.  This is important as the boot sector and other data is 
>> >> easily
>> >> mis-burned if you burn it too quickly.  Also, if you're still getting
>> >> that
>> >> x-server display error after running a newly slowly-been-burn Live-CD,
>> >> it's
>> >> usually a hardware incompatibility issue (usually temporary).  Try to
>> >> install
>> >> using the safe mode or text only option in the Live-CD install menu,
>> and
>> >> then you can finish the installation (the graphical, or GUI) by typing
>> >> the
>> >> following in the terminal area after the first part is installed and
>> you
>> >> have
>> >> rebooted your computer:
>> >>
>> >> sudo apt-get update -f
>> >> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
>> >>
>> >> If the above commands don't work, try the following:
>> >>
>> >> sudo aptitude update -f
>> >> sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop
>> >>
>> >> The above will take some time along with several prompts asking which
>> >> display manager you want (xde).  Also, once you're finish, you may 
>> >> want
>> >> to
>> >> install all the updates too from the terminal (I think it's faster 
>> >> than
>> >> running
>> >> it through GUI).  Here's the update options:
>> >>
>> >> sudo apt-get update -f
>> >> sudo apt-get upgrade -f
>> >>
>> >> or
>> >>
>> >> sudo aptitude update -f
>> >> sudo aptitude upgrade -f
>> >>
>> >> You will then be prompted again for your password, etc.  If you're
>> still
>> >> having hardware issues, then you'll have to go to Intel's web site,
>> >> http://www.intel.com to find the appropriate chipset drivers to
>> download
>> >> for your
>> >> laptop in order to operate properly.  This can be done for anyone who
>> >> owns
>> >> an Intel machine too who might be having hardware issues.  They have
>> >> downloads for Windows & Linux, so don't panic just yet.  I recommend
>> >> printing this
>> >> out before trying it so you know what you type when the time comes.
>> Hope
>> >> this helps.
>> >>
>> >> -David :D
>> >>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >>   From: Vincent
>> >>   To: Xubuntu Help and User Discussions
>> >>   Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 8:39 AM
>> >>   Subject: Re: [xubuntu-users] Beginners Problem Intel 915 Chipset-vga
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>   On 23/01/2008, hesekiel2 at gmx.de <hesekiel2 at gmx.de> wrote:
>> >>     Didi at hamburg, germany:
>> >>     This mail is already pretty old, 10 days, or so? ,but there was no
>> >> reply up to now, so i send it again !!!
>> >>
>> >>     Hi xubuntu- users!
>> >>     Yesterday i tried --for the very first time at all, ---no xubuntu-
>> >> experience at all ---( only suse-linux a bit  and now ubuntu, working
>> >> fine
>> >> since 2 weeks now, on my desktop pc , great Stuff!!! )to run Xubuntu 
>> >> on
>> >> my
>> >> subnotebook / webpad  or so:
>> >>     Asus r 2 h ... , normally running under Windows xp, tablet edition
>> ,
>> >> vista compatible, too, but would be very slow, i feel ?!
>> >>     it got a celerom M ULV 900 Cpu and a mobile intel 915 chipset, 800
>> x
>> >> 480 touchpad-lcd-tft, 60 Gb Hdd, Usb2. Sdcard-reader, video-/ vga-out,
>> >> fingerprint-sensor, , GPS, lan, wlan, bluetooth, camera and such, 
>> >> fully
>> >> featured
>> >> tiny little digital companion, a true digital diamond ;-)
>> >>     it book- sized and weighs a coarse 900 gramms ... Not much bigger
>> >> than
>> >> PSP  , but much   more featured and IBM-compatible ...
>> >>
>> >>     Anyway:
>> >>     Back  to xubuntu:
>> >>     Everytime i try and start  the ( 7. 10 ) xubuntu-cd  in my  ASUS R
>> 2
>> >> H
>> >> UMPC, text- mode part of bot works fine, but i only get up to the
>> >> start-procedure of the X- server.....
>> >>     which fails totaly...
>> >>
>> >>     the screnn only changes slowly from dark  to 100% white, with some
>> >> nice pattern in between , a bit grayscale pixel-blurring- show ....
>> >>     every 20 seconds or so ....
>> >>
>> >>     Maybe the Asus LCd- screen with itś unusual 800 X 480 pixel size
>> ist
>> >> guilty for that ?!
>> >>     Is there any workaround, e. g. Boot- parameters to fix that ??
>> >>     I can neither use ( live-Cd) nor install Xubuntu, if i cannot see
>> >> anything on the screen .... and the x- server shutting down 
>> >> perodically
>> >> ....
>> >>     Isn it ?!
>> >>
>> >>     Please help !
>> >>     1 million Thanks in advance to everybody , who will answer & help
>> >> !!!!
>> >>
>> >>     read ya?
>> >>
>> >>     D. L.
>> >>
>> >>   Well, you could try installing using the Alternate Install CD, but I
>> >> cannot guarantee that it will work after it is installed. Are there 
>> >> any
>> >> error
>> >> messages upon boot? (Press Ctrl+Alt+F1 to see output once it has tried
>> >> starting the graphical display)
>> >>
>> >>   -- 
>> >>   Vincent
>> >
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