[xubuntu-users] Beginners Problem Intel 915 Chipset-vga

[hesekiel2 at gmx.de]

Dieter lange from hamburg, germany..
Hi again, david. 
As i wrote in my first 2 mails, itś an ASUS R2h UMPC....
german ( Pal) edition , if there is an difference in Langualisation aND VIDEO-OUT STANDARDS ..( YES, IT IST, BECAUSE OF GEMAN paL tv-COLOR -SYSTEM !!! )
oKAY, GAO NO TIME AT THE mOMENT TO WRITE MORE..
tHE SCREEN IS NATIVE 800 X 480, UNDER WINDOWS, VIA SPECIAL INTEL DRIVER, A LOT OF DIFERENT VIRTUAL SCREEN-RESOLUTIONS ARE SELECTABLE, NOT ALL OF THEM REMEINING  CONGRUENT , i. e. usable TO THE TOUCHSCREEN DRIVER ...

that meens, -terrible, but not yet bugfixed, as far as i know, that most screenmodes have massive  offset pproblems between  screen and touchpad..
no tool added, to fix that, i. e.. to adjust  offset issues... !!!
windows , asus, & intel... a nonperfect -team !!!
ubuntu hopefuly will perform better ?!?!
At the very moment: not performing at all
read ya ?

dieter from Germany.. -------- Original-Nachricht --------
> Datum: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 05:05:26 -0600
> Von: "David Mooney" <moondoggy369 at mchsi.com>
> An: "Xubuntu Help and User Discussions" <xubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Betreff: Re: [xubuntu-users] Beginners Problem Intel 915 Chipset-vga

> D.L-
> 
> Another thing about the resolution: it's actually a split mode resolution,
> not common, but not unusual either.  Normal modes would be 640/480 or 
> 800/600, not 800/480.  When having almost a 2/1 ratio on screen vertical 
> hold, it definitely complicates things.  Is there a way to switch the 
> resolution to 640/480 or 800/600 via BIOS or internally via (on/off) 
> switches or posts?  If I knew the exact make and model of your laptop I 
> might be able to help you configure it's hardware so that it will work
> using 
> Xubuntu.  There's got to be a way...
> 
> -David :D
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <hesekiel2 at gmx.de>
> To: "Xubuntu Help and User Discussions" <xubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 3:36 AM
> Subject: Re: [xubuntu-users] Beginners Problem Intel 915 Chipset-vga
> 
> 
> > Dieter ange, from Hamburg, germany ..hi, and thanx a lot, David Mooney ,
> >
> > 1) Well, The CD- might be corrupt? !
> > hmmm, maybe , but i dn think so . I might try it on another Computer,
> not 
> > install, but as a live - cd .
> > 2) intel Chipset-VGA- graphics !!!
> > Well, yes, there might be severe issues, because intel ( always? ) uses
> a 
> > so caled-softbios for their chipset-VGa .
> > this means, as much, as i know ( not much !!!), that the normal vga-
> bios 
> > 8on seperate card is missing totay, instead it integrated into standard 
> > bios-area.... The bios itself  knows , whre ( at which adress and such)
> it 
> > own companion, the vga-part is located , but not xubuntu- 
> > hardware-detection ???  So, in windows, the Gui- ( and the direct-x ) 
> > drivers have to replace the bios totally, especialy already fotr 
> > performance -issues and for the more highre screen- & colourdepth- 
> > solutions too...  The softbios then is, when the driver instals, somehow
> > linked to the driver and / or Gui ?!?!
> > something like that.
> > Although this is widely accepted  in OS-writers, OS- programmers, there 
> > migt be reminig ndrstanding-problems , or Intel doesn deliver proper 
> > information to these Guys ?!  Don know, but guessing ..
> > 3) The unusual screensolution ?!
> > maybe, the VGA-chipset-driver, de,ivered with xubuntu 7.10 only can ( or
> > does ) adrss the standard-extrenvga out socket properly, but cannot deal
> > with the ( maybe ? ) tricky combination between internal 800 x 480  and 
> > multimode externa VGA , which , at least under windows , can be set up,
> to 
> > work either
> > a) simultaniously , showing the same content, or:
> > b) 2-screen mode, adding extra space ..
> > c) 2-screen, showing the direct x-overlay seperately on screen 2, the
> rest 
> > on nr. 1
> > d) reversely
> > e) the progs`s windows are shown in window, i. e. : screen  1) , the
> prog 
> > results( workspace) window in window/ screen 2)
> > There is even a seperate Video-out connector  that maybe also has to be 
> > adressed properly ?!
> > The whole Situation, so,  maybe difficult and trickey ....
> > Okay, all above wild theories...
> > Since asus doesn answer to my email up to now, i might go to intels 
> > webpage and try there to find  info &/o driver and such ...
> >
> > thanx a lot up to now,
> > best regards and good wishes go to You, dear david mooney,
> > allways yours
> > dieter lange
> > -------- Original-Nachricht --------
> >> Datum: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 16:16:46 -0600
> >> Von: "David Mooney" <moondoggy369 at mchsi.com>
> >> An: "Xubuntu Help and User Discussions"
> <xubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> >> Betreff: Re: [xubuntu-users] Beginners Problem Intel 915 Chipset-vga
> >
> >> D.L.-
> >>
> >> This is normal for time time users.  I did it too, but I wasn't sure
> what
> >> I did to deserve such a thing LOL.  Anyways, when you make/burn the 
> >> Xubuntu
> >> live CD, make sure to burn it at the LOWEST speed possible, usually 1x
> >> will do.  This is important as the boot sector and other data is easily
> >> mis-burned if you burn it too quickly.  Also, if you're still getting 
> >> that
> >> x-server display error after running a newly slowly-been-burn Live-CD, 
> >> it's
> >> usually a hardware incompatibility issue (usually temporary).  Try to 
> >> install
> >> using the safe mode or text only option in the Live-CD install menu, 
> and
> >> then you can finish the installation (the graphical, or GUI) by typing 
> >> the
> >> following in the terminal area after the first part is installed and
> you 
> >> have
> >> rebooted your computer:
> >>
> >> sudo apt-get update -f
> >> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
> >>
> >> If the above commands don't work, try the following:
> >>
> >> sudo aptitude update -f
> >> sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop
> >>
> >> The above will take some time along with several prompts asking which
> >> display manager you want (xde).  Also, once you're finish, you may want
> >> to
> >> install all the updates too from the terminal (I think it's faster than
> >> running
> >> it through GUI).  Here's the update options:
> >>
> >> sudo apt-get update -f
> >> sudo apt-get upgrade -f
> >>
> >> or
> >>
> >> sudo aptitude update -f
> >> sudo aptitude upgrade -f
> >>
> >> You will then be prompted again for your password, etc.  If you're
> still
> >> having hardware issues, then you'll have to go to Intel's web site,
> >> http://www.intel.com to find the appropriate chipset drivers to
> download 
> >> for your
> >> laptop in order to operate properly.  This can be done for anyone who 
> >> owns
> >> an Intel machine too who might be having hardware issues.  They have
> >> downloads for Windows & Linux, so don't panic just yet.  I recommend 
> >> printing this
> >> out before trying it so you know what you type when the time comes. 
> Hope
> >> this helps.
> >>
> >> -David :D
> >>   ----- Original Message ----- 
> >>   From: Vincent
> >>   To: Xubuntu Help and User Discussions
> >>   Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 8:39 AM
> >>   Subject: Re: [xubuntu-users] Beginners Problem Intel 915 Chipset-vga
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>   On 23/01/2008, hesekiel2 at gmx.de <hesekiel2 at gmx.de> wrote:
> >>     Didi at hamburg, germany:
> >>     This mail is already pretty old, 10 days, or so? ,but there was no
> >> reply up to now, so i send it again !!!
> >>
> >>     Hi xubuntu- users!
> >>     Yesterday i tried --for the very first time at all, ---no xubuntu-
> >> experience at all ---( only suse-linux a bit  and now ubuntu, working 
> >> fine
> >> since 2 weeks now, on my desktop pc , great Stuff!!! )to run Xubuntu on
> >> my
> >> subnotebook / webpad  or so:
> >>     Asus r 2 h ... , normally running under Windows xp, tablet edition
> ,
> >> vista compatible, too, but would be very slow, i feel ?!
> >>     it got a celerom M ULV 900 Cpu and a mobile intel 915 chipset, 800
> x
> >> 480 touchpad-lcd-tft, 60 Gb Hdd, Usb2. Sdcard-reader, video-/ vga-out,
> >> fingerprint-sensor, , GPS, lan, wlan, bluetooth, camera and such, fully
> >> featured
> >> tiny little digital companion, a true digital diamond ;-)
> >>     it book- sized and weighs a coarse 900 gramms ... Not much bigger 
> >> than
> >> PSP  , but much   more featured and IBM-compatible ...
> >>
> >>     Anyway:
> >>     Back  to xubuntu:
> >>     Everytime i try and start  the ( 7. 10 ) xubuntu-cd  in my  ASUS R
> 2 
> >> H
> >> UMPC, text- mode part of bot works fine, but i only get up to the
> >> start-procedure of the X- server.....
> >>     which fails totaly...
> >>
> >>     the screnn only changes slowly from dark  to 100% white, with some
> >> nice pattern in between , a bit grayscale pixel-blurring- show ....
> >>     every 20 seconds or so ....
> >>
> >>     Maybe the Asus LCd- screen with itś unusual 800 X 480 pixel size
> ist
> >> guilty for that ?!
> >>     Is there any workaround, e. g. Boot- parameters to fix that ??
> >>     I can neither use ( live-Cd) nor install Xubuntu, if i cannot see
> >> anything on the screen .... and the x- server shutting down perodically
> >> ....
> >>     Isn it ?!
> >>
> >>     Please help !
> >>     1 million Thanks in advance to everybody , who will answer & help 
> >> !!!!
> >>
> >>     read ya?
> >>
> >>     D. L.
> >>
> >>   Well, you could try installing using the Alternate Install CD, but I
> >> cannot guarantee that it will work after it is installed. Are there any
> >> error
> >> messages upon boot? (Press Ctrl+Alt+F1 to see output once it has tried
> >> starting the graphical display)
> >>
> >>   -- 
> >>   Vincent
> >
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