[xubuntu-users] Beginners Problem Intel 915 Chipset-vga
hesekiel2 at gmx.de
hesekiel2 at gmx.de
Fri Jan 25 18:00:11 UTC 2008
dieter lange , Hamburg, germany..
WHY only windows ?? Some guys at asus, another asus-guy told me, have been experimentig with linux..
and the brandnew triple-e -pc, which i almost the same device , onl keyboard ans touchpad ded, case normalized vias notebokk i. e. foldable, bigger accu, no GPS, No bluetoot, flashram instead of HDD will be delivered with some kind , some derivate of linux, windows : only a driver dik for windows , no more support.Ssame screen, as far as i know, but mayby n touchscreen ?!
Anyway, the chipset & the vgachip are beeing supported at least by thhat specific linux.
so, asus will also try and help me get some linux going on the UMPC , WE CAN be 100 % shure..
I only need some more details, to fix the issue , maybe from asus ...
these guys are sometims a bit lazy, sometimes not !!!
Tell me a luky guy, but not yet !
okay, got no more time at the moment, have to leave now!
yours and thanks a lot up to now!
dieter from hamburg
Tell if
yours
dieter L.
-------- Original-Nachricht --------
> Datum: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 06:20:20 -0600
> Von: "David Mooney" <moondoggy369 at mchsi.com>
> An: "Xubuntu Help and User Discussions" <xubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Betreff: Re: [xubuntu-users] Beginners Problem Intel 915 Chipset-vga
> Ich war falsch. Perhaps you can only run Windows and no other operating
> system on that laptop...?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <hesekiel2 at gmx.de>
> To: "Xubuntu Help and User Discussions" <xubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 7:01 AM
> Subject: Re: [xubuntu-users] Beginners Problem Intel 915 Chipset-vga
>
>
> > Dieter lange from hamburg, germany..
> > Hi again, david.
> > As i wrote in my first 2 mails, itś an ASUS R2h UMPC....
> > german ( Pal) edition , if there is an difference in Langualisation aND
> > VIDEO-OUT STANDARDS ..( YES, IT IST, BECAUSE OF GEMAN paL tv-COLOR
> -SYSTEM
> > !!! )
> > oKAY, GAO NO TIME AT THE mOMENT TO WRITE MORE..
> > tHE SCREEN IS NATIVE 800 X 480, UNDER WINDOWS, VIA SPECIAL INTEL DRIVER,
> A
> > LOT OF DIFERENT VIRTUAL SCREEN-RESOLUTIONS ARE SELECTABLE, NOT ALL OF
> THEM
> > REMEINING CONGRUENT , i. e. usable TO THE TOUCHSCREEN DRIVER ...
> >
> > that meens, -terrible, but not yet bugfixed, as far as i know, that most
> > screenmodes have massive offset pproblems between screen and
> touchpad..
> > no tool added, to fix that, i. e.. to adjust offset issues... !!!
> > windows , asus, & intel... a nonperfect -team !!!
> > ubuntu hopefuly will perform better ?!?!
> > At the very moment: not performing at all
> > read ya ?
> >
> > dieter from Germany.. -------- Original-Nachricht --------
> >> Datum: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 05:05:26 -0600
> >> Von: "David Mooney" <moondoggy369 at mchsi.com>
> >> An: "Xubuntu Help and User Discussions"
> <xubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> >> Betreff: Re: [xubuntu-users] Beginners Problem Intel 915 Chipset-vga
> >
> >> D.L-
> >>
> >> Another thing about the resolution: it's actually a split mode
> >> resolution,
> >> not common, but not unusual either. Normal modes would be 640/480 or
> >> 800/600, not 800/480. When having almost a 2/1 ratio on screen
> vertical
> >> hold, it definitely complicates things. Is there a way to switch the
> >> resolution to 640/480 or 800/600 via BIOS or internally via (on/off)
> >> switches or posts? If I knew the exact make and model of your laptop I
> >> might be able to help you configure it's hardware so that it will work
> >> using
> >> Xubuntu. There's got to be a way...
> >>
> >> -David :D
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: <hesekiel2 at gmx.de>
> >> To: "Xubuntu Help and User Discussions"
> <xubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> >> Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2008 3:36 AM
> >> Subject: Re: [xubuntu-users] Beginners Problem Intel 915 Chipset-vga
> >>
> >>
> >> > Dieter ange, from Hamburg, germany ..hi, and thanx a lot, David
> Mooney
> >> > ,
> >> >
> >> > 1) Well, The CD- might be corrupt? !
> >> > hmmm, maybe , but i dn think so . I might try it on another Computer,
> >> not
> >> > install, but as a live - cd .
> >> > 2) intel Chipset-VGA- graphics !!!
> >> > Well, yes, there might be severe issues, because intel ( always? )
> uses
> >> a
> >> > so caled-softbios for their chipset-VGa .
> >> > this means, as much, as i know ( not much !!!), that the normal vga-
> >> bios
> >> > 8on seperate card is missing totay, instead it integrated into
> standard
> >> > bios-area.... The bios itself knows , whre ( at which adress and
> such)
> >> it
> >> > own companion, the vga-part is located , but not xubuntu-
> >> > hardware-detection ??? So, in windows, the Gui- ( and the direct-x )
> >> > drivers have to replace the bios totally, especialy already fotr
> >> > performance -issues and for the more highre screen- & colourdepth-
> >> > solutions too... The softbios then is, when the driver instals,
> >> > somehow
> >> > linked to the driver and / or Gui ?!?!
> >> > something like that.
> >> > Although this is widely accepted in OS-writers, OS- programmers,
> there
> >> > migt be reminig ndrstanding-problems , or Intel doesn deliver proper
> >> > information to these Guys ?! Don know, but guessing ..
> >> > 3) The unusual screensolution ?!
> >> > maybe, the VGA-chipset-driver, de,ivered with xubuntu 7.10 only can (
> >> > or
> >> > does ) adrss the standard-extrenvga out socket properly, but cannot
> >> > deal
> >> > with the ( maybe ? ) tricky combination between internal 800 x 480
> and
> >> > multimode externa VGA , which , at least under windows , can be set
> up,
> >> to
> >> > work either
> >> > a) simultaniously , showing the same content, or:
> >> > b) 2-screen mode, adding extra space ..
> >> > c) 2-screen, showing the direct x-overlay seperately on screen 2, the
> >> rest
> >> > on nr. 1
> >> > d) reversely
> >> > e) the progs`s windows are shown in window, i. e. : screen 1) , the
> >> prog
> >> > results( workspace) window in window/ screen 2)
> >> > There is even a seperate Video-out connector that maybe also has to
> be
> >> > adressed properly ?!
> >> > The whole Situation, so, maybe difficult and trickey ....
> >> > Okay, all above wild theories...
> >> > Since asus doesn answer to my email up to now, i might go to intels
> >> > webpage and try there to find info &/o driver and such ...
> >> >
> >> > thanx a lot up to now,
> >> > best regards and good wishes go to You, dear david mooney,
> >> > allways yours
> >> > dieter lange
> >> > -------- Original-Nachricht --------
> >> >> Datum: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 16:16:46 -0600
> >> >> Von: "David Mooney" <moondoggy369 at mchsi.com>
> >> >> An: "Xubuntu Help and User Discussions"
> >> <xubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
> >> >> Betreff: Re: [xubuntu-users] Beginners Problem Intel 915 Chipset-vga
> >> >
> >> >> D.L.-
> >> >>
> >> >> This is normal for time time users. I did it too, but I wasn't sure
> >> what
> >> >> I did to deserve such a thing LOL. Anyways, when you make/burn the
> >> >> Xubuntu
> >> >> live CD, make sure to burn it at the LOWEST speed possible, usually
> 1x
> >> >> will do. This is important as the boot sector and other data is
> >> >> easily
> >> >> mis-burned if you burn it too quickly. Also, if you're still
> getting
> >> >> that
> >> >> x-server display error after running a newly slowly-been-burn
> Live-CD,
> >> >> it's
> >> >> usually a hardware incompatibility issue (usually temporary). Try
> to
> >> >> install
> >> >> using the safe mode or text only option in the Live-CD install menu,
> >> and
> >> >> then you can finish the installation (the graphical, or GUI) by
> typing
> >> >> the
> >> >> following in the terminal area after the first part is installed and
> >> you
> >> >> have
> >> >> rebooted your computer:
> >> >>
> >> >> sudo apt-get update -f
> >> >> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
> >> >>
> >> >> If the above commands don't work, try the following:
> >> >>
> >> >> sudo aptitude update -f
> >> >> sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop
> >> >>
> >> >> The above will take some time along with several prompts asking
> which
> >> >> display manager you want (xde). Also, once you're finish, you may
> >> >> want
> >> >> to
> >> >> install all the updates too from the terminal (I think it's faster
> >> >> than
> >> >> running
> >> >> it through GUI). Here's the update options:
> >> >>
> >> >> sudo apt-get update -f
> >> >> sudo apt-get upgrade -f
> >> >>
> >> >> or
> >> >>
> >> >> sudo aptitude update -f
> >> >> sudo aptitude upgrade -f
> >> >>
> >> >> You will then be prompted again for your password, etc. If you're
> >> still
> >> >> having hardware issues, then you'll have to go to Intel's web site,
> >> >> http://www.intel.com to find the appropriate chipset drivers to
> >> download
> >> >> for your
> >> >> laptop in order to operate properly. This can be done for anyone
> who
> >> >> owns
> >> >> an Intel machine too who might be having hardware issues. They have
> >> >> downloads for Windows & Linux, so don't panic just yet. I recommend
> >> >> printing this
> >> >> out before trying it so you know what you type when the time comes.
> >> Hope
> >> >> this helps.
> >> >>
> >> >> -David :D
> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> >> From: Vincent
> >> >> To: Xubuntu Help and User Discussions
> >> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 8:39 AM
> >> >> Subject: Re: [xubuntu-users] Beginners Problem Intel 915
> Chipset-vga
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> On 23/01/2008, hesekiel2 at gmx.de <hesekiel2 at gmx.de> wrote:
> >> >> Didi at hamburg, germany:
> >> >> This mail is already pretty old, 10 days, or so? ,but there was
> no
> >> >> reply up to now, so i send it again !!!
> >> >>
> >> >> Hi xubuntu- users!
> >> >> Yesterday i tried --for the very first time at all, ---no
> xubuntu-
> >> >> experience at all ---( only suse-linux a bit and now ubuntu,
> working
> >> >> fine
> >> >> since 2 weeks now, on my desktop pc , great Stuff!!! )to run Xubuntu
> >> >> on
> >> >> my
> >> >> subnotebook / webpad or so:
> >> >> Asus r 2 h ... , normally running under Windows xp, tablet
> edition
> >> ,
> >> >> vista compatible, too, but would be very slow, i feel ?!
> >> >> it got a celerom M ULV 900 Cpu and a mobile intel 915 chipset,
> 800
> >> x
> >> >> 480 touchpad-lcd-tft, 60 Gb Hdd, Usb2. Sdcard-reader, video-/
> vga-out,
> >> >> fingerprint-sensor, , GPS, lan, wlan, bluetooth, camera and such,
> >> >> fully
> >> >> featured
> >> >> tiny little digital companion, a true digital diamond ;-)
> >> >> it book- sized and weighs a coarse 900 gramms ... Not much
> bigger
> >> >> than
> >> >> PSP , but much more featured and IBM-compatible ...
> >> >>
> >> >> Anyway:
> >> >> Back to xubuntu:
> >> >> Everytime i try and start the ( 7. 10 ) xubuntu-cd in my ASUS
> R
> >> 2
> >> >> H
> >> >> UMPC, text- mode part of bot works fine, but i only get up to the
> >> >> start-procedure of the X- server.....
> >> >> which fails totaly...
> >> >>
> >> >> the screnn only changes slowly from dark to 100% white, with
> some
> >> >> nice pattern in between , a bit grayscale pixel-blurring- show ....
> >> >> every 20 seconds or so ....
> >> >>
> >> >> Maybe the Asus LCd- screen with itś unusual 800 X 480 pixel
> size
> >> ist
> >> >> guilty for that ?!
> >> >> Is there any workaround, e. g. Boot- parameters to fix that ??
> >> >> I can neither use ( live-Cd) nor install Xubuntu, if i cannot
> see
> >> >> anything on the screen .... and the x- server shutting down
> >> >> perodically
> >> >> ....
> >> >> Isn it ?!
> >> >>
> >> >> Please help !
> >> >> 1 million Thanks in advance to everybody , who will answer &
> help
> >> >> !!!!
> >> >>
> >> >> read ya?
> >> >>
> >> >> D. L.
> >> >>
> >> >> Well, you could try installing using the Alternate Install CD, but
> I
> >> >> cannot guarantee that it will work after it is installed. Are there
> >> >> any
> >> >> error
> >> >> messages upon boot? (Press Ctrl+Alt+F1 to see output once it has
> tried
> >> >> starting the graphical display)
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Vincent
> >> >
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