[xubuntu-users] (no subject)

[Gauvain Pocentek]

Please see 
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2007-January/002884.html 
about claws/TB.

About epiphany, it brings in all the gnome libs, and we try to avoid 
this since the beginning of Xubuntu. Please find a browser which can do 
everything that Firefox does (without gnome or kde libs, perl, c#...), 
also find someone ready to maintain it in Ubuntu, and I guess that 
everybody would be OK to replace Firefox.

Gauvain



Irena & Richard Jenkins wrote:
> As a user of several Xubuntu distributions ... both for the x86 and 
> ppc platforms I want to raise the issue of the future of the 
> distribution.  When first developed, Xubuntu was targeted at the user 
> whose machine was a little 'below par' when compared with the usual 
> home and/or office machine.  IIt was aimed at machines that lacked raw 
> horsepower and or memory resources to cope with the steeply increasing 
> resource demands of either KDE or Gnome.
>
> Lately, I find that Xubuntu is becoming more of a **different** 
> distribution ... and has lost its focus on doing more with less.  It 
> has replaced KDE with XFce ... touting its ability to do the job with 
> fewer resources.  However, the selection of packages leaves me 
> bewildered.  As examples I note that for browsers and email ... the 
> common programs are Firefox and Thunderbird.  I have nothing against 
> these two programs ... but it has to be admitted that they are large 
> and quite resource hungry.  At home I replace them with the mail 
> client sylpheed and the browser epiphany.  No trouble to do this ... 
> and the change results in a significant 'speed-up' of my internet 
> activity.
>
> Now why were the large programs included in the basic cdrom for 
> xubuntu and installed automatically onto the desktop?   Additionally, 
> why are they so important to Xubuntu that if you try to remove them 
> you are warned that you will be throwing out the meta-package 
> 'xubuntu-desktop'?
>
> It's precisely this sort of change that makes me wonder if Xubuntu 
> developers have 'lost the plot' ... and are content with rendering 
> something different rather than something really useful to those of us 
> who are still plugging away ... with older machines ... keeping them 
> going until they are just fit for cannibalisation.
>
> I am writing this on a mac ... but my preferred portable computer is 
> an old 366 MHz celeron with 96 meg of ram.  This machine will only run 
> 6.06 Xubuntu .... with careful choice of packages.  It does run them 
> well providing internet feeds ... whether by dialup, wifi or 
> ethernet.  Later Xubuntu (6.10) does NOT run well on this machine ... 
> and I despair of getting 7.04 to work with any speed.  My other 
> desktop an iMac 350MHz with 256 Meg of memory also suffers if I do not 
> change the email and browser clients.
>
> So, what about it developers?  Is there a basic minimum specification 
> for hardware ... that you recommend for your distribution ... and are 
> you brave enough to specify it?
>
>
> Richard
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> Irena and Richard Jenkins
> Canberra, Australia
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> Irena & Richard Jenkins
> in Canberra or on the road...
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