[xubuntu-users] (no subject)

Vincent imnotb at gmail.com
Thu Jan 18 12:23:06 UTC 2007

As far as I recall Firefox and Thunderbird have always been included with
Xubuntu. I do agree that "removing xubuntu-desktop" sounds very frightening
even though it apparently does no harm to remove it.

On 1/18/07, Irena & Richard Jenkins <rjenkins at alphalink.com.au> wrote:
> As a user of several Xubuntu distributions ... both for the x86 and ppc
> platforms I want to raise the issue of the future of the distribution.  When
> first developed, Xubuntu was targeted at the user whose machine was a little
> 'below par' when compared with the usual home and/or office machine.  IIt
> was aimed at machines that lacked raw horsepower and or memory resources to
> cope with the steeply increasing resource demands of either KDE or Gnome.
> Lately, I find that Xubuntu is becoming more of a **different**
> distribution ... and has lost its focus on doing more with less.  It has
> replaced KDE with XFce ... touting its ability to do the job with fewer
> resources.  However, the selection of packages leaves me bewildered.  As
> examples I note that for browsers and email ... the common programs are
> Firefox and Thunderbird.  I have nothing against these two programs ... but
> it has to be admitted that they are large and quite resource hungry.  At
> home I replace them with the mail client sylpheed and the browser epiphany.
> No trouble to do this ... and the change results in a significant 'speed-up'
> of my internet activity.
> Now why were the large programs included in the basic cdrom for xubuntu
> and installed automatically onto the desktop?   Additionally, why are they
> so important to Xubuntu that if you try to remove them you are warned that
> you will be throwing out the meta-package 'xubuntu-desktop'?
> It's precisely this sort of change that makes me wonder if Xubuntu
> developers have 'lost the plot' ... and are content with rendering something
> different rather than something really useful to those of us who are still
> plugging away ... with older machines ... keeping them going until they are
> just fit for cannibalisation.
> I am writing this on a mac ... but my preferred portable computer is an
> old 366 MHz celeron with 96 meg of ram.  This machine will only run 6.06Xubuntu .... with careful choice of packages.  It does run them well
> providing internet feeds ... whether by dialup, wifi or ethernet.  Later
> Xubuntu (6.10) does NOT run well on this machine ... and I despair of
> getting 7.04 to work with any speed.  My other desktop an iMac 350MHz with
> 256 Meg of memory also suffers if I do not change the email and browser
> clients.
> So, what about it developers?  Is there a basic minimum specification for
> hardware ... that you recommend for your distribution ... and are you brave
> enough to specify it?
> Richard
> Irena and Richard Jenkins
> Canberra, Australia
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