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Vincent imnotb at gmail.com
Thu Jan 18 13:58:37 UTC 2007


On 1/18/07, Gauvain Pocentek <gauvainpocentek at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Please see
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2007-January/002884.html
> about claws/TB.
>
> About epiphany, it brings in all the gnome libs, and we try to avoid
> this since the beginning of Xubuntu. Please find a browser which can do
> everything that Firefox does (without gnome or kde libs, perl, c#...),
> also find someone ready to maintain it in Ubuntu, and I guess that
> everybody would be OK to replace Firefox.


Though probably compatibility or an own library of extensions isn't required
because you won't find one anyway :P

Gauvain
>
>
>
> Irena & Richard Jenkins wrote:
> > As a user of several Xubuntu distributions ... both for the x86 and
> > ppc platforms I want to raise the issue of the future of the
> > distribution.  When first developed, Xubuntu was targeted at the user
> > whose machine was a little 'below par' when compared with the usual
> > home and/or office machine.  IIt was aimed at machines that lacked raw
> > horsepower and or memory resources to cope with the steeply increasing
> > resource demands of either KDE or Gnome.
> >
> > Lately, I find that Xubuntu is becoming more of a **different**
> > distribution ... and has lost its focus on doing more with less.  It
> > has replaced KDE with XFce ... touting its ability to do the job with
> > fewer resources.  However, the selection of packages leaves me
> > bewildered.  As examples I note that for browsers and email ... the
> > common programs are Firefox and Thunderbird.  I have nothing against
> > these two programs ... but it has to be admitted that they are large
> > and quite resource hungry.  At home I replace them with the mail
> > client sylpheed and the browser epiphany.  No trouble to do this ...
> > and the change results in a significant 'speed-up' of my internet
> > activity.
> >
> > Now why were the large programs included in the basic cdrom for
> > xubuntu and installed automatically onto the desktop?   Additionally,
> > why are they so important to Xubuntu that if you try to remove them
> > you are warned that you will be throwing out the meta-package
> > 'xubuntu-desktop'?
> >
> > It's precisely this sort of change that makes me wonder if Xubuntu
> > developers have 'lost the plot' ... and are content with rendering
> > something different rather than something really useful to those of us
> > who are still plugging away ... with older machines ... keeping them
> > going until they are just fit for cannibalisation.
> >
> > I am writing this on a mac ... but my preferred portable computer is
> > an old 366 MHz celeron with 96 meg of ram.  This machine will only run
> > 6.06 Xubuntu .... with careful choice of packages.  It does run them
> > well providing internet feeds ... whether by dialup, wifi or
> > ethernet.  Later Xubuntu (6.10) does NOT run well on this machine ...
> > and I despair of getting 7.04 to work with any speed.  My other
> > desktop an iMac 350MHz with 256 Meg of memory also suffers if I do not
> > change the email and browser clients.
> >
> > So, what about it developers?  Is there a basic minimum specification
> > for hardware ... that you recommend for your distribution ... and are
> > you brave enough to specify it?
> >
> >
> > Richard
> >
> >
> > Irena and Richard Jenkins
> > Canberra, Australia
> > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >
> >
> > Irena & Richard Jenkins
> > in Canberra or on the road...
> > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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Vincent
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