[UbuntuWomen] Some will never learn...
Caroline Ford
caroline.ford.work at googlemail.com
Thu Mar 29 00:20:42 UTC 2007
On Wed, 2007-03-28 at 19:52 -0400, Matt Good wrote:
> On Wed, 2007-03-28 at 17:21 -0500, B.A. Lopez wrote:
> > Caroline,
> > do you have the link to their mail list archives? I'm rather
> > curious to see how this played out and yes, it should be a CC issue
> > if you feel you are being treated unfairly.
>
> This is the blog entry where the user asked her to step down from the
> Ubuntu UK Planet:
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-uk/2007-March/thread.html#3698
>
> My interpretation of the user's comment is not that he/she disagreed
> with Caroline's post on the mailing list here about the sexist joke:
> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-uk/2007-March/thread.html#3698
>
> Rather, it sounds like he/she was disappointed that after citing another
> user for violating the Ubuntu CoC on the mailing list that Caroline
> would use crude language on her own blog which is syndicated on the
> Ubuntu UK Planet. In that context I believe that this user's comment is
> justifiable.
>
> Caroline, I hope you consider rejoining the Planet. This sounds like a
> misunderstanding to me.
>
> -- Matt Good
I was going to try and not post any further on this as I will just wind
myself up.
I don't think you understand how unwelcome I feel.
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-uk/2007-March/003698.html is
the start of the thread with the "joke". I have been reminded that some
people actually left the mailing list after I said it was a code of
conduct violation because it was humourless I think.
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-uk/2007-March/003730.html was
the opinion of the leader of Ubuntu-UK - basically mocking me.
There is a history of this stuff. When we were organising for the
women's expo in October we got this -
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-uk/2006-September/000761.html
Ana who responded hasn't posted since.
Jono Bacon has referred to us all as "chaps", seemingly oblivious that
some of us aren't (and has been politely reminded of this). They are a
little boys club who's only known activity is organising a stall at the
expo. I am being made to feel that I am the politically correct thought
police. It's so much easier just to walk away - I don't get this in my
lug, on wikipedia or in openstreetmap. Ubuntu is supposed to be *more*
welcoming than average, it's very much less.
I'm not going to take it to the Community Council as Jono is on the CC
and he's their mate. I also feel that I'd be cross examined and it would
prolong it - Ubuntu-UK just isn't worth that to me.
Caroline
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