Ubuntu-Women Goals (was: [UbuntuWomen] (No, you're not... :))

[Jeannie]

Hmmm, how can I make myself more clear.
What attracted ME to a womens users group is the HOPE that I would be able
to get clear and understandable answers to my technical questions.  MY
experiences asking questions in other Forums have not been productive.  I
never introduced myself as a women (I have only recently used an identifying
email and signature).   If you haven't encountered pissing  contests then
you are fortunate.  However, I have.  Please don't deny me MY opinions, I
wont deny you yours.  So.... I suggest if you want a community and you want
to encourage women to use Linux that you don't deny feelings and opinions.

PS, I never said I wont ask questions to boys.  Try to find someone else to
isolate, it wont work with me.


On 6/30/06, Robin Sonefors <ozamosi at flukkost.nu> wrote:
>
> I know I should shut up now, but I won't.
>
> Are you telling me you won't ask questions when boys are around, just
> because in some places, there are pissing contests?
>
> I'm sorry, but I feel you're missing the point completely... Let me
> start with this question: how many women/men are there in the forums
> you're refering to? What's the ratio of that? Also, how many are
> participating in these contests?
>
> You believe that the male gender as such is responsible for that, not
> the individuals? You believe that any place where male individuals is
> around, you can't ask questions, because you won't get any decent
> answer?
>
> If you only knew how wrong you are...
>
> I can tell you that the swedish ubuntu community (which I've got plenty
> of experiences from)- as far as I have seen so far (and I've seen most
> things) - do not engage in pissing contests. There's a good atmosphere,
> that many users have claimed is the only reason they're still running
> linux (there are people running arch, debian and other things in our IRC
> chat, because they simply like to be there). And I can promise that this
> is not the only good community around.
>
> I can agree that sometimes, there will be a pissing contest the first
> time you introduce yourself if you're a women, and everyone else is
> male. That will pass - I promise. (ask Princess Leia if you don't
> believe me - she wrote similar stuff today/yesterday)
>
> There's idiot's everywhere: deal with it. If most users are cool, make
> sure there's one more cool user (you). That'll make the forum/mail
> list/whatever a better place to be for others.
>
> fre 2006-06-30 klockan 08:23 -0700 skrev Jeannie:
> > What attracted me to this group was the hope that I would be able to
> > ask a technical question and get it answered clearly and
> > understandably.  Many times in the other Linux groups the boys (not
> > all of them) are to busy answering to impress (The pissing contest
> > effect) .
>
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