[ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu CNR deal

Stephen Morrish stephen.morrish at gmail.com
Sun Feb 11 23:06:09 GMT 2007


On 2/11/07, Philip Wyett <philip.wyett at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 09/02/07, Dean Sas <dean at deansas.org> wrote:
> >
> > Philip Wyett wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I have been reading about the Ubuntu / Linspire CNR deal and I have
> > > some serious reservations about it.
> > >
> > > Will CNR be part of a default desktop installation?
> >
> > Not according to the FAQ that was released with the press release. We
> > are to get some "CNR like" features eventually. I imagine this could tie
> > in to the new totem hook which prompts you to enable multiverse and
> > install codecs when playing patent encumbered videos, only perhaps
> > referring you to CNR rather than the legally questionable packages.
>
>
> Well... In the FAQ we can see "CNR is added to the standard Ubuntu
> software
> installation method to complement existing functionality". This covers a
> multitude of sins and could mean many implementation methods.
>
> Someone needs to come out and honestly say what is the initial plans at
> this
> time; and make sure that person does not work in any PR or marketing
> department.
>
> >
> > > Ubuntu - Linux for human beings and not Linux to confuse the crap out
> > of
> > > folks
> > > with more software installation methods than you can shake a stick at.
> > Other
> > > vendors have it right on this with many other software companies ...
> > > Here is the way
> > > you do it - The one way. How can anything be for human beings when you
> > > can get "I installed this via this and this via that and now I have an
> > > issue" - It
> > > will cause so many problems for both users and add a large overhead to
> > the
> > > developers.
> > >
> > We currently have add/remove programs and synaptic, update-manager has
> > a similar purpose too...
>
>
> These all pull from the same repositories, thus no additional overhead.
>
> Adding CNR means an additional 'uncontrolled' source of apps with possible
> build
> differences that could make MS DLL hell and RPM dep problems look like
> quite
> minor annoyances.
>
> Regards
>
> Phil
>
>
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OK I'm new here, so Hi to everyone. Now that's out of the way... I tried
FreeSpire before ubuntu. There were several things I didn't like about it
and one of those was CNR. Not the method, but the whole feel of the thing.
It felt like I was in the bargain isle of a supermarket. It just didn't feel
right to me. I can understand why there is a tie-up with the LinSpire guys.
I'm not against the use of proprietary software, heck the first thing I do
with a fresh install is download "Automatrix"

If I have understood what I have read, Lin/FreeSpire will be based on
ubuntu, so things shouldn't go too wrong. Also ubuntu will have it's own CNR
interface rather than the gawdie CNR web site.



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Regards Steve Morrish...
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