[ubuntu-my] Fwd: Ubuntu-my Digest, Vol 18, Issue 5

Sat Jun 21 14:02:02 BST 2008

Maybe we should build poll for this
and meeting about it.
but i am very sure that gunblade is suitable to be our new leader

On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 1:31 AM, ApOgEE <jerungkun at gmail.com> wrote:

> Why do people think politics sucks? People learn from lessons... When they
> have encounter in front of their face that shit smells stinks, they will
> pinch their nose when they see one... even something that looks alike.
>
> As for me, I'm clear that only those politicians could color their own.
> Whether to make it sucks or make it good.
>
> Voting in the first place isn't involve politics. It does involve community
> decisions. And that is democracy. Without voting, you may mistakenly make
> decision that didn't fit the community or in malay words, "syok sendiri".
> Politics comes next, when some guys think that he can get benefit from the
> community by being a leader and then pretend that they are better to be
> voted, create promises, lies and so on. We have eyes, we have ears, we have
> sense to decide what is right and wrong. If we mistakenly voted a person who
> cannot really do what he said or promise, we could also vote him down.
> That's the community power.
>
> I think I can grab Zarul's idea, to simply hand over the leadership to the
> person who have already spending all their time working for the community.
> The person who have already spent their time replying emails to people who
> asked for their help. So, in order to justify who is that person, we should
> count on everyone who meet that criteria.
>
> Being a newbies in this community, I just wanna see this community growing
> better, active and supportive like other LUGs in the world. I hope that you
> will choose the right person who can spend his time to lead this great
> community. I hope someday, people will recognize Ubuntu Malaysia among the
> best Linux community in Asia, if not the best in the world.
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 9:32 PM, Mohd Faizul Zulkipli <
> gunbladeiv at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>  Stop it Faizul.  Oh no, our name maybe same but I'm not interested in
>> being leader.  I just would like to contribute to the community as what I am
>> currently do right now,  I have to agree with wariola about election.  We
>> should practice democracy to elect the best leader.  And I have to agree
>> with Zarul's too, no politics in this community.
>>
>>
>>
>> Show us what you can do instead of talking what you could do.
>>
>> I'm voting for an election for the next leader to bring the community one
>> step forward.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* ubuntu-my-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:
>> ubuntu-my-bounces at lists.ubuntu.com] *On Behalf Of *Mohamad Faizul
>> *Sent:* Friday, June 20, 2008 7:40 PM
>> *To:* Malaysian Team Mailing List
>> *Subject:* Re: [ubuntu-my] Fwd: Ubuntu-my Digest, Vol 18, Issue 5
>>
>>
>>
>> i think gunblade is suitable to be our new leader
>> anyone ?
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 11:26 AM, zarul shahrin <zarulshahrin at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hai
>>
>> I have a thought about it, I don't really agree with this election thing..
>>
>> One thing about election is, the better you talk and the better social
>> skills you have, then you will be a leader.. even if in reality, there are
>> more people spending all their time working for the community..
>> But these people are boring geeks, they don't organize BBQ instead they
>> spend their time replying emails to people who asked for their help.
>> Election is all about, how many you know instead of how much you have
>> contributed. Atleast, this is true in Malaysia.
>>
>> I hate politics , most of the politicians are just good at making promises
>> and finding/spotting other people mistakes. They are good at making people
>> think they are angels, while the current leaders are Devils.  Most of them
>> don't care about the people, they just lied so that they can rise to power
>> and when they rise to power, you will realized how much of what they said
>> before were nothing more than lies so that they can be at the top...
>>
>> I am sorry, but I don't wish to have politics or politician here... The
>> kind of leader that I dream of is a leader with a proven background, a
>> background in helping the people... I am stubborn person, I am no longer
>> gonna be the leader of this group, and it has already have much problem..
>> But I do not wish to see it being a complete destruction... I might not be a
>> good leader and I learned a lot from my experience and pretty much tell me
>> what kind of person should lead this group.... I founded the local group,
>> that something you can't deny.. I am not boasting.. but that's fact... as a
>> founder,  I don't want to see what I started being destroyed, I am willing
>> to go because I think I am not good enough or have enough experience to lead
>> this group anymore, and I wish someone who is more experienced to lead the
>> group and not someone who is popular but lacking in term of experience and
>> knowledge and skills of a leader..
>>
>> I am going to come out with the list of people who have been contributing
>> and supporting Ubuntu for the past few years.. they are not popular people,
>> but they are old and experienced enough to lead the group...  I normally
>> don't use my power to decide, but this will be the first and the last for
>> me.. For the good of this community...
>>
>>
>> Zarul
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 9:29 PM, Syamsul Anuar <anuar at vastalux.com.my>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Salam / Greetings All,
>>
>> Zarul, Thanks for all your contribution and we respect your decision.
>> Its time for the new leadership to take your legacy and move forward the
>> Ubuntu Malaysia community towards better tomorrow.
>>
>> I for one suggest there should be an election for new leadership,
>> complete with some campaigning as I think the Malaysia general public
>> nowadays dont embrace "peralihan kuasa" (read: something got to do with
>> Pak Lah.. ) but a fair and democratic constitution is the way forward.
>>
>> I will always lend my support to my beloved Linux Community.
>>
>> Regards,
>> -wariola-
>>
>>
>>
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