Call for testing empathy

[Alexander Jones]

2008/8/10 Philip Wyett <philwyett at gmx.com>:
> The argument Luke puts forward for keeping pidgin by default for the
> time being I totally agree with. I have installed empathy under hardy
> and it connects to nothing by default but asks you to install
> 'backends'. I know it uses telepathy so knew what to look for but any
> common user would not, so this makes the application useless and
> documentation is non existent to guide you!

Schoolboy error. You should be evaluating the Empathy in Intrepid, not
Hardy, in order for you to make a fair assessment and valid
contribution of opinion, here.

telepathy-butterfly and some others are now installed as recommends I
think, and including a reasonable set of connection managers in the
default seed is a trivial exercise.

> Also...
>
> * butterfly for msn does not work.
> * msn connections under haze will not allow you to change on-line status
> state.

Microsoft changed some DNS setting that broke pymsn, which is the
library Butterfly uses to connecto MSN. Intrepid is fine, of course.

We would clearly not include both MSN and MSN (Haze) in the final
release, as that is just a bogus decision for end users to have to
make.

> The above was from 10 minutes usage!
>
> The app does not meet the grade to be included in any Ubuntu release at
> this time. Also the UI is not nice and slick or smooth ... something
> Mark is looking for to be above the Apple crowd and beat them with
> better and as nice looking software.

It is as slick and smooth as the GTK theme you use. How is Pidgin any
"slicker" or even any "smoother"?