[Ubuntu-be] Win8 will block dual-boot?
wouter Vandenneucker
woutervddn at hotmail.com
Fri Sep 23 20:43:56 UTC 2011
There was something similar a few months ago with a Cell Phone that was locked.The judge decided that the phone was designed for "all" mobile providers, therefore the mobile provider "restricted" the use of the device although it was intended to do more.Result: every person who wanted the device to be unlocked could ship it for free and the company had to unlock them..
Let us hope we get a better result in this case though..
Grts
Wouter Vandenneucker
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 22:35:26 +0200
From: sulumar op gmail.com
To: ubuntu-be op lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-be] Win8 will block dual-boot?
I have doubts on the legality of that kind of strategie microsoft is
trying to pull up
On 2011-09-23 22:32, wouter Vandenneucker wrote:
EPFSUG is
already talking about shouting it out to some MEP's in order
to make sure the rights of the users are guaranteed..
I
guess this isn't the last we heard from it. (And that's a
good thing!)
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 22:16:48 +0200
From: vincent op mangelschots.org
To: ubuntu-be op lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-be] Win8 will block dual-boot?
Microsoft does require that the hardware ships with UEFI
secure boot enabled but it also states that it will support
the unsecured boot process. If so then it's up to the
hardware vendors to make it optional.
http://tweakers.net/nieuws/76961/microsoft-secure-boot-blokkeert-andere-besturingssystemen-niet.html (dutch)
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 5:31
PM, Pieter Vande Wyngaerde <pietervandewyngaerde op gmail.com>
wrote:
UEFI secure booting (part 2) via planet.debian.net:
very good good article @ http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/5850.html
(Part 1 here: http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/5552.html)
from the article:
These are the facts:
Windows 8 certification requires that hardware ship
with UEFI secure
boot enabled.
Windows 8 certification does not require that the user
be able to
disable UEFI secure boot, and we've already been
informed by hardware
vendors that some hardware will not have this option.
Windows 8 certification does not require that the
system ship with any
keys other than Microsoft's.
A system that ships with UEFI secure boot enabled and
only includes
Microsoft's signing keys will only securely boot
Microsoft operating
systems.
...
The truth is that Microsoft's move removes control
from the end user
and places it in the hands of Microsoft and the
hardware vendors. The
truth is that it makes it more difficult to run
anything other than
Windows. The truth is that UEFI secure boot is a
valuable and
worthwhile feature that Microsoft are misusing to gain
tighter control
over the market. And the truth is that Microsoft
haven't even
attempted to argue otherwise.
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 7:03 AM, Jurgen Gaeremyn
<jurgen.gaeremyn op pandora.be>
wrote:
> Have a read here:
>
> http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/will-windows-8-block-users-from-dual-booting-linux-microsoft-wont-say/10772
>
> Grtz,
> Jurgen.
>
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