[Ubuntu-be] Win8 will block dual-boot?

Sulumar sulumar at gmail.com
Fri Sep 23 20:35:26 UTC 2011


I have doubts on the legality of that kind of strategie microsoft is 
trying to pull up


On 2011-09-23 22:32, wouter Vandenneucker wrote:
> EPFSUG is already talking about shouting it out to some MEP's in order 
> to make sure the rights of the users are guaranteed..
> I guess this isn't the last we heard from it. (And that's a good thing!)
>
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> Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 22:16:48 +0200
> From: vincent at mangelschots.org
> To: ubuntu-be at lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-be] Win8 will block dual-boot?
>
> Microsoft does require that the hardware ships with UEFI secure boot 
> enabled but it also states that it will support the unsecured boot 
> process. If so then it's up to the hardware vendors to make it optional.
>
> http://tweakers.net/nieuws/76961/microsoft-secure-boot-blokkeert-andere-besturingssystemen-niet.html (dutch)
>
> On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Pieter Vande Wyngaerde 
> <pietervandewyngaerde at gmail.com 
> <mailto:pietervandewyngaerde at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     UEFI secure booting (part 2)  via planet.debian.net
>     <http://planet.debian.net>:
>
>     very good good article @ http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/5850.html
>     (Part 1 here: http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/5552.html)
>
>     from the article:
>     These are the facts:
>
>     Windows 8 certification requires that hardware ship with UEFI secure
>     boot enabled.
>     Windows 8 certification does not require that the user be able to
>     disable UEFI secure boot, and we've already been informed by hardware
>     vendors that some hardware will not have this option.
>     Windows 8 certification does not require that the system ship with any
>     keys other than Microsoft's.
>     A system that ships with UEFI secure boot enabled and only includes
>     Microsoft's signing keys will only securely boot Microsoft operating
>     systems.
>
>     ...
>
>     The truth is that Microsoft's move removes control from the end user
>     and places it in the hands of Microsoft and the hardware vendors. The
>     truth is that it makes it more difficult to run anything other than
>     Windows. The truth is that UEFI secure boot is a valuable and
>     worthwhile feature that Microsoft are misusing to gain tighter control
>     over the market. And the truth is that Microsoft haven't even
>     attempted to argue otherwise.
>
>
>
>     On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 7:03 AM, Jurgen Gaeremyn
>     <jurgen.gaeremyn at pandora.be <mailto:jurgen.gaeremyn at pandora.be>>
>     wrote:
>     > Have a read here:
>     >
>     >
>     http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/will-windows-8-block-users-from-dual-booting-linux-microsoft-wont-say/10772
>     >
>     > Grtz,
>     > Jurgen.
>     >
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