<html> <head> <style></style> </head> <body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'> There was something similar a few months ago with a Cell Phone that was locked.<div>The judge decided that the phone was designed for "all" mobile providers, therefore the mobile provider "restricted" the use of the device although it was intended to do more.</div><div>Result: every person who wanted the device to be unlocked could ship it for free and the company had to unlock them..</div><div><br></div><div>Let us hope we get a better result in this case though..</div><div><br></div><div>Grts</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Wouter Vandenneucker</div><div><br><div><hr id="stopSpelling">Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 22:35:26 +0200<br>From: sulumar@gmail.com<br>To: ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com<br>Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-be] Win8 will block dual-boot?<br><br> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=unicode"> <meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft SafeHTML"> <title></title> I have doubts on the legality of that kind of strategie microsoft is trying to pull up<br> <br> <br> On 2011-09-23 22:32, wouter Vandenneucker wrote: <blockquote cite="mid:BAY157-W527602D0EB4B1CDE7B288FD90F0@phx.gbl"> <style> .ExternalClass .ecxhmmessage P {padding:0px;} .ExternalClass body.ecxhmmessage {font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma;} </style> <div dir="ltr"> <font class="ecxApple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="2">EPFSUG is already talking about shouting it out to some MEP's in order to make sure the rights of the users are guaranteed</font><font class="ecxApple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="2">..</font> <div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" face="Tahoma" size="2">I guess this isn't the last we heard from it. (And that's a good thing!)<br> </font><br> <div style="font-family:Tahoma;font-size:10pt"> <hr id="ecxstopSpelling">Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 22:16:48 +0200<br> From: <a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vincent@mangelschots.org">vincent@mangelschots.org</a><br> To: <a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com</a><br> Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-be] Win8 will block dual-boot?<br> <br> Microsoft does require that the hardware ships with UEFI secure boot enabled but it also states that it will support the unsecured boot process. If so then it's up to the hardware vendors to make it optional. <div><br> </div> <div><a href="http://tweakers.net/nieuws/76961/microsoft-secure-boot-blokkeert-andere-besturingssystemen-niet.html" target="_blank">http://tweakers.net/nieuws/76961/microsoft-secure-boot-blokkeert-andere-besturingssystemen-niet.html</a> (dutch)<br> <br> <div class="ecxgmail_quote">On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Pieter Vande Wyngaerde <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pietervandewyngaerde@gmail.com">pietervandewyngaerde@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class="ecxgmail_quote" style="padding-left:1ex"> UEFI secure booting (part 2) via <a href="http://planet.debian.net" target="_blank">planet.debian.net</a>:<br> <br> very good good article @ <a href="http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/5850.html" target="_blank">http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/5850.html</a><br> (Part 1 here: <a href="http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/5552.html" target="_blank">http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/5552.html</a>)<br> <br> from the article:<br> These are the facts:<br> <br> Windows 8 certification requires that hardware ship with UEFI secure<br> boot enabled.<br> Windows 8 certification does not require that the user be able to<br> disable UEFI secure boot, and we've already been informed by hardware<br> vendors that some hardware will not have this option.<br> Windows 8 certification does not require that the system ship with any<br> keys other than Microsoft's.<br> A system that ships with UEFI secure boot enabled and only includes<br> Microsoft's signing keys will only securely boot Microsoft operating<br> systems.<br> <br> ...<br> <br> The truth is that Microsoft's move removes control from the end user<br> and places it in the hands of Microsoft and the hardware vendors. The<br> truth is that it makes it more difficult to run anything other than<br> Windows. The truth is that UEFI secure boot is a valuable and<br> worthwhile feature that Microsoft are misusing to gain tighter control<br> over the market. And the truth is that Microsoft haven't even<br> attempted to argue otherwise.<br> <div> <div class="h5"><br> <br> <br> On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 7:03 AM, Jurgen Gaeremyn<br> <<a href="mailto:jurgen.gaeremyn@pandora.be">jurgen.gaeremyn@pandora.be</a>> wrote:<br> > Have a read here:<br> ><br> > <a href="http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/will-windows-8-block-users-from-dual-booting-linux-microsoft-wont-say/10772" target="_blank">http://www.zdnet.com/blog/microsoft/will-windows-8-block-users-from-dual-booting-linux-microsoft-wont-say/10772</a><br> ><br> > Grtz,<br> > Jurgen.<br> ><br> > --<br> > ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:<a href="mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com</a><br> ><br> > Modify settings or unsubscribe at:<br> > <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be</a><br> ><br> <br> --<br> ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:<a href="mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com">ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com</a><br> <br> Modify settings or unsubscribe at:<br> <a href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be</a><br> </div> </div> </blockquote> </div> <br> </div> <br> -- ubuntu-be mailing list / <a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com">mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com</a> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: <a class="ecxmoz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be" target="_blank">https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be</a></div> </div> </div> </blockquote> <br> <br>-- ubuntu-be mailing list / mailto:ubuntu-be@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-be</div></div> </div></body> </html>