14.04 seems subject to bug 1046563 with update-manager/notifier

[Phill Whiteside]

Hi,

so the release notes do not state it can take two reboots (network), and
the initial bug points to the second bug which affects (amongst other)
update manager?

I'm not being picky, but I added that section and would appreciate how to
make it clearer for those people who actually bother to read them.

Regards,

Phill.


On 14 May 2014 23:38, John Hupp <lubuntu at prpcompany.com> wrote:

>  For nm-applet, Fix #1 at
> http://www.webupd8.org/2014/04/fix-lubuntu-1404-network-manager.htmlworked for me, and Fix #2 slipped from memory.
>
> But for this problem with update-notifier, *neither* Fix results in
> notification of updates.
>
> Oddly, in /etc/xdg/autostart/update-notifier.desktop, neither
>     Exec=dbus-launch update-notifier
> nor
>     Exec="dbus-launch update-notifier"
> results in a running update-notifier process.
>
> If from the terminal I run
>     $ dbus-launch update-notifier
> that produces a running process, but as in the previous post, I get no
> actual notification of updates.
>
> Which brings me back around to my current working theory that bug 1046563
> (concerning update-notifier) really is distinct from the nm-applet bug.
>
>
> On 5/14/2014 5:36 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote:
>
> Hi John (and everyone else),
>
>  This issue is known about and is on the release notes[1]. It never
> surprises me that people never read them :) If you are affected, simply log
> onto the bug and click 'Affects Me', this way you will get updates as the
> bug progresses. Rest assured, Julien is on the case (look at the most
> recent posts).
>
>  Regards,
>
>  Phill.
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes/Lubuntu#Applications
>
>
> On 14 May 2014 22:22, John Hupp <lubuntu at prpcompany.com> wrote:
>
>>  On 5/13/2014 6:40 PM, brendanperrine wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 13 May 2014 17:39:52 -0400
>> Dale Visser <dale.visser at live.com> <dale.visser at live.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>  I may be seeing this as well on my two Lubuntu 14.04
>>
>>  Also I think this may be a related issue but if I do update and then have a kernel update then the reminder to restart your computer does not come up.
>>
>>
>> OK, I found out that the first problem is that update-notifier is
>> supposed to launch from a shortcut in /etc/xdg/autostart -- the same
>> location that nm-applet is supposed to launch from.  But it is well known
>> that nm-applet fails to launch from that location under 14.04.  In fact,
>> nothing will.  See Bug 1309698 - Lubuntu does not handle
>> /etc/xdg/autostart<https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxsession/+bug/1309698>
>>
>> If one employs the same workaround as for nm-applet, manually adding
>> update-notifier as an autostart app, then update-notifier appears as a
>> running process.
>>
>> *BUT*, I have not yet been prompted to install any updates.  I understand
>> that update-notifier is supposed to poll for updates every 180 seconds.  So
>> whatever was at work in
>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/1046563(starting with 12.04) seems to be failing here still.
>>
>> Some of the Ubuntu-related servers seemed to be out of commission earlier
>> today, so maybe that comes into play also.
>>
>> I see that some people have gotten results with update-notifier.  I don't
>> know what may be different here.  This is on a laptop, so some default
>> settings may be different than for desktops.
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> On another point from my original post -- the difference between updates
>> offered by update-manager vs. apt-get -- I found out that update-manager
>> respects the Phased Updates mentioned earlier by Dale Visser, and apt-get
>> (and Synaptic) do not.  They will offer everything that has been released.
>> See bapoumba's post at Software Updater not notifying<http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2222325&page=5&p=13018620#post13018620>,
>> though I don't know which of his three references he is drawing that from.
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> @BrendanP: update-notifier is used to issue the reboot reminder, so that
>> is a related issue.
>>
>>
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