<div dir="ltr">Hi,<div><br></div><div>so the release notes do not state it can take two reboots (network), and the initial bug points to the second bug which affects (amongst other) update manager?</div><div><br></div><div>
I'm not being picky, but I added that section and would appreciate how to make it clearer for those people who actually bother to read them.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div><br></div><div>Phill.</div></div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 14 May 2014 23:38, John Hupp <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lubuntu@prpcompany.com" target="_blank">lubuntu@prpcompany.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>For nm-applet, Fix #1 at <a href="http://www.webupd8.org/2014/04/fix-lubuntu-1404-network-manager.html" target="_blank">http://www.webupd8.org/2014/04/fix-lubuntu-1404-network-manager.html</a>
worked for me, and Fix #2 slipped from memory.<br>
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But for this problem with update-notifier, *neither* Fix results
in notification of updates.<br>
<br>
Oddly, in /etc/xdg/autostart/update-notifier.desktop, neither<br>
Exec=dbus-launch update-notifier<br>
nor<br>
Exec="dbus-launch update-notifier"<br>
results in a running update-notifier process. <br>
<br>
If from the terminal I run <br>
$ dbus-launch update-notifier<br>
that produces a running process, but as in the previous post, I
get no actual notification of updates.<br>
<br>
Which brings me back around to my current working theory that bug
1046563 (concerning update-notifier) really is distinct from the
nm-applet bug.<div><div class="h5"><br>
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On 5/14/2014 5:36 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi John (and everyone else),
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<div>This issue is known about and is on the release notes[1].
It never surprises me that people never read them :) If you
are affected, simply log onto the bug and click 'Affects Me',
this way you will get updates as the bug progresses. Rest
assured, Julien is on the case (look at the most recent
posts).</div>
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<div>Regards,</div>
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<div>Phill.</div>
<div><a href="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes/Lubuntu#Applications" target="_blank">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes/Lubuntu#Applications</a><br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 14 May 2014 22:22, John Hupp <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lubuntu@prpcompany.com" target="_blank">lubuntu@prpcompany.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div>On 5/13/2014 6:40 PM, brendanperrine wrote:<br>
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<pre>On Tue, 13 May 2014 17:39:52 -0400
Dale Visser <a href="mailto:dale.visser@live.com" target="_blank"><dale.visser@live.com></a> wrote:
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<pre>I may be seeing this as well on my two Lubuntu 14.04
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<pre>Also I think this may be a related issue but if I do update and then have a kernel update then the reminder to restart your computer does not come up.
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OK, I found out that the first problem is that
update-notifier is supposed to launch from a shortcut in
/etc/xdg/autostart -- the same location that nm-applet is
supposed to launch from. But it is well known that
nm-applet fails to launch from that location under 14.04.
In fact, nothing will. See <a href="https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxsession/+bug/1309698" target="_blank">Bug 1309698 - Lubuntu does not handle
/etc/xdg/autostart</a><br>
<br>
If one employs the same workaround as for nm-applet,
manually adding update-notifier as an autostart app, then
update-notifier appears as a running process.<br>
<br>
*BUT*, I have not yet been prompted to install any
updates. I understand that update-notifier is supposed to
poll for updates every 180 seconds. So whatever was at
work in <a href="https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/1046563" target="_blank">https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/1046563</a>
(starting with 12.04) seems to be failing here still.<br>
<br>
Some of the Ubuntu-related servers seemed to be out of
commission earlier today, so maybe that comes into play
also.<br>
<br>
I see that some people have gotten results with
update-notifier. I don't know what may be different
here. This is on a laptop, so some default settings may
be different than for desktops.<br>
<br>
<hr size="2" width="100%"><br>
On another point from my original post -- the difference
between updates offered by update-manager vs. apt-get -- I
found out that update-manager respects the Phased Updates
mentioned earlier by Dale Visser, and apt-get (and
Synaptic) do not. They will offer everything that has
been released. See bapoumba's post at <a href="http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2222325&page=5&p=13018620#post13018620" target="_blank">Software Updater not notifying</a>,
though I don't know which of his three references he is
drawing that from.<br>
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@BrendanP: update-notifier is used to issue the reboot
reminder, so that is a related issue.<br>
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