14.04 seems subject to bug 1046563 with update-manager/notifier

[John Hupp]

For nm-applet, Fix #1 at 
http://www.webupd8.org/2014/04/fix-lubuntu-1404-network-manager.html 
worked for me, and Fix #2 slipped from memory.

But for this problem with update-notifier, *neither* Fix results in 
notification of updates.

Oddly, in /etc/xdg/autostart/update-notifier.desktop, neither
     Exec=dbus-launch update-notifier
nor
     Exec="dbus-launch update-notifier"
results in a running update-notifier process.

If from the terminal I run
     $ dbus-launch update-notifier
that produces a running process, but as in the previous post, I get no 
actual notification of updates.

Which brings me back around to my current working theory that bug 
1046563 (concerning update-notifier) really is distinct from the 
nm-applet bug.

On 5/14/2014 5:36 PM, Phill Whiteside wrote:
> Hi John (and everyone else),
>
> This issue is known about and is on the release notes[1]. It never 
> surprises me that people never read them :) If you are affected, 
> simply log onto the bug and click 'Affects Me', this way you will get 
> updates as the bug progresses. Rest assured, Julien is on the case 
> (look at the most recent posts).
>
> Regards,
>
> Phill.
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes/Lubuntu#Applications
>
>
> On 14 May 2014 22:22, John Hupp <lubuntu at prpcompany.com 
> <mailto:lubuntu at prpcompany.com>> wrote:
>
>     On 5/13/2014 6:40 PM, brendanperrine wrote:
>>     On Tue, 13 May 2014 17:39:52 -0400
>>     Dale Visser<dale.visser at live.com>  <mailto:dale.visser at live.com>  wrote:
>>
>>>     I may be seeing this as well on my two Lubuntu 14.04
>>     Also I think this may be a related issue but if I do update and then have a kernel update then the reminder to restart your computer does not come up.
>
>     OK, I found out that the first problem is that update-notifier is
>     supposed to launch from a shortcut in /etc/xdg/autostart -- the
>     same location that nm-applet is supposed to launch from.  But it
>     is well known that nm-applet fails to launch from that location
>     under 14.04. In fact, nothing will.  See Bug 1309698 - Lubuntu
>     does not handle /etc/xdg/autostart
>     <https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxsession/+bug/1309698>
>
>     If one employs the same workaround as for nm-applet, manually
>     adding update-notifier as an autostart app, then update-notifier
>     appears as a running process.
>
>     *BUT*, I have not yet been prompted to install any updates.  I
>     understand that update-notifier is supposed to poll for updates
>     every 180 seconds.  So whatever was at work in
>     https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/1046563
>     (starting with 12.04) seems to be failing here still.
>
>     Some of the Ubuntu-related servers seemed to be out of commission
>     earlier today, so maybe that comes into play also.
>
>     I see that some people have gotten results with update-notifier. 
>     I don't know what may be different here.  This is on a laptop, so
>     some default settings may be different than for desktops.
>
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>     On another point from my original post -- the difference between
>     updates offered by update-manager vs. apt-get -- I found out that
>     update-manager respects the Phased Updates mentioned earlier by
>     Dale Visser, and apt-get (and Synaptic) do not.  They will offer
>     everything that has been released.  See bapoumba's post at
>     Software Updater not notifying
>     <http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2222325&page=5&p=13018620#post13018620>,
>     though I don't know which of his three references he is drawing
>     that from.
>
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>     @BrendanP: update-notifier is used to issue the reboot reminder,
>     so that is a related issue.
>
>
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