Lubuntu 12.04 End Of Life - EOL

Wed Oct 30 17:20:24 UTC 2013

2013/10/30 Ali Linx (amjjawad) <amjjawad at gmail.com>

>
> On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 8:15 PM, Iberê Fernandes <
> ibere.fernandes at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi there!
>>
>> Should we announce in our channels at Facebook and G+ that Lubuntu 12.04
>> has reached EOL?
>>
>> I'm not running Lubuntu 12.04 and I don't have a L12.04 image.
>>
>> If someone still has Lubuntu 12.04, could you provide the output of this
>> command, please?
>>
>> ubuntu-support-status --show-all
>>
>> source:
>> http://www.ubuntu.com/info/release-end-of-life
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Iberê
>>
>
> Hi,
>
> This is:  Linux 3.2.0-55-generic #85-Ubuntu SMP Wed Oct 2 12:29:27 UTC
> 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux (Lubuntu 12.04 amd64).
>
> Output of that tricky command is:
>
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>
> *$ ubuntu-support-status --show-all*
>
> *You have 20 packages (1.6%) supported until October 2013 (18m)
> *
> You have 15 packages (1.2%) supported until April 2015 (18m)
> You have 996 packages (81.9%) supported until April 2017 (5y)
> You have 3 packages (0.2%) supported until October 2018 (5y)
>
> You have 0 packages (0.0%) that can not/no-longer be downloaded
> You have 182 packages (15.0%) that are unsupported
>
> *Supported until October 2013 (18m):*
> esound-common libaudiofile1 libcue1 libenca0 libesd0 libgsf-1-114
> libgsf-1-common libid3tag0 libimlib2 libmad0 libva-x11-1 libvdpau1
> libxcb-composite0 libxcb-randr0 libxcb-xv0 notification-daemon pidgin
> pidgin-data xscreensaver xscreensaver-data
>
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>
> NOW, which part that tells you this system has reached its EOL and should
> NOT be used? this part?
> *"You have 20 packages (1.6%) supported until October 2013 (18m)"*
>
> If YES, then what is the difference between this:
> *You have 20 packages (1.6%) supported until October 2013 (18m)
> *
> *
> *
> and this:
> *
> *
> *You have 182 packages (15.0%) that are unsupported*
>
> The reason why I am asking is because the output of:
>
> *$ ubuntu-support-status --show-all*
> *
> *
> That shows "unsupported packages" on my Lubuntu 12.04 Installation *(which
> supposed that it has reached its EOL)* is very close to the output that
> shows "unsupported packages" on my Lubuntu 13.04 installation *which has
> NOT yet reached its EOL*.
>
> Examples of *mutual* *'unsupported packages'* on both my Lubuntu *12.04*installation and Lubuntu
> *13.04* installations:
>
>
>    - lubuntu-artwork
>    - lxpanel
>    - lxsession
>    - xfce4-power-manager
>    - pcmanfm
>
>
> These packages (just an example of much more packages) are indeed on the
> official repositories.
>
> These packages, as per the command, are not supported whether on Lubuntu
> 12.04 or Lubuntu 13.04.
>
> Now, I do hope you see why this is confusing.
>
> If both Lubuntu 12.04 and Lubuntu 13.04 showing the SAME unsupported
> packages, HOW CAN you tell which system has reached its EOL and must not be
> used and which system is still usable?
>
> Unless of course, the part that says "unsupported packages" should be
> ignored and this part is what we need to look at to tell which has reached
> its EOL and which one is not:
>
> *Lubutnu 12.04*
> *You have 20 packages (1.6%) supported until October 2013 (18m)*
> You have 15 packages (1.2%) supported until April 2015 (18m)
> You have 996 packages (81.9%) supported until April 2017 (5y)
> You have 3 packages (0.2%) supported until October 2018 (5y)
>
>
> You have 0 packages (0.0%) that can not/no-longer be downloaded
> You have 182 packages (15.0%) that are unsupported
>
> *Lubuntu 13.04*
> *You have 1200 packages (84.8%) supported until January 2014 (9m)
> *You have 12 packages (0.8%) supported until July 2014 (9m)
>
> You have 0 packages (0.0%) that can not/no-longer be downloaded
> You have 203 packages (14.3%) that are unsupported
>
> - - - - - -
>
> HOWEVER, why PCManFM for example or LXPanel is UNsupported on 13.04?
>
> I hope you see why this is confusing and I do strongly suggest we create a
> * NEW Wiki Page* to explain this since this has been an endless debate
> since Lubuntu 12.04 (one year and a half).
>
> By the way, I have:
> Lubuntu 12.04 installation
> Lubuntu 13.04 installation
> and Lubuntu 13.10 installation
>
> So, if you need/require the full output (to compare), let me know!
>
>
> --
> Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us."
> Best Regards,
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>

I'm running Lubuntu 13.04. Maybe you didn't get my reply quoting the answer
from our friend vasa1:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2013-October/005892.html

What he said makes sense:
$ apt-cache show lxpanel
Package: lxpanel
Priority: optional
Section: universe/x11
Installed-Size: 3279
Maintainer: Ubuntu Developers <ubuntu-devel-discuss at lists.ubuntu.com>
Original-Maintainer: Debian LXDE Maintainers <lxde-debian at lists.lxde.org>
Architecture: i386
Version: 0.5.12-0ubuntu2
Depends: libasound2 (>= 1.0.16), libc6 (>= 2.7), libcairo2 (>= 1.2.4),
libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 (>= 2.22.0), libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.35.9), libgtk2.0-0 (>=
2.24.0), libiw30 (>= 30~pre1), libmenu-cache2, libwnck22 (>= 1:2.22),
libx11-6, lxmenu-data
Recommends: xterm | pavucontrol | gnome-alsamixer
Suggests: lxsession | menu, iceweasel | www-browser
Filename: pool/universe/l/lxpanel/lxpanel_0.5.12-0ubuntu2_i386.deb

Note that lxpanel above is from pool/universe

Now the same command against esound-common:
~$ apt-cache show esound-common
Package: esound-common
Priority: optional
Section: sound
Installed-Size: 80
Maintainer: Ubuntu Developers <ubuntu-devel-discuss at lists.ubuntu.com>
Original-Maintainer: Josselin Mouette <joss at debian.org>
Architecture: all
Source: esound
Version: 0.2.41-10ubuntu1
Conflicts: libesd-alsa0
Filename: pool/main/e/esound/esound-common_0.2.41-10ubuntu1_all.deb
Size: 9412

Supported: 9m

So this package is from pool/main.

So from vasa1 and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu, I
believe (not sure) that both main and restricted repositories are the ones
supported by Canonical.

My 2 cents.
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