[lubuntu-devel] Lu 20.10 running 5.4 kernel . . . still???

Fritz Hudnut este.el.paz at gmail.com
Sat Dec 12 01:31:31 UTC 2020


Walter:

Thanks for the reply . . . I will try that "analyze" command . . . I did a
similar thing with my U-MATE  20.10 install that was also very slow to boot
up . . . there were so many problems with that install version that I wound
up nuking that one and went to straight Debian Bullseye and that isn't
totally super-quick to boot because of the system check that ubuntu seems
to do . . . .  A fair comparison will be Mint, Debian, and Lubuntu . . .
not sure if the same command will work with TW & Manjaro, but I'll check
them over the next week as I log into them.

But, on the "I must be doing something wrong" argument . . . box stock
20.10 system upgraded from 20.04 . . . regular updates maintained,
regularly . . . .  Maybe I'll change etc/apt/sources to "hippo" and see if
that speeds the show up . . . .  The only thing I'm not upgrading in ubuntu
is grub2 . . . because of the problems that it causes to multi-boot setups
. . . ho-hum.

F

On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 1:14 PM Walter Lapchynski <wxl at ubuntu.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 08:33:27AM -0800, Fritz Hudnut wrote:
> > Gents:
>
> Nope, not all of us are.
>
> > impressions leaves Lu 20.10 still "slow" to boot and log in . . .
>
> If it sometimes works fine and other times appears slow, I'm going to
> have to say the reasonable conclusion is NOT that the system is slow
> overall. If you want to draw conclusions, its best to use data to
> support your assertions. To that end, use the `systemd-analyze` command
> to determine what the actual load times are. You should test this across
> similar systems, so using the live images would be a good way to do so.
> Ideally, you do it over a few boots to make it stastically credible,
> too. If you do find that there's a difference, `systemd-analyze blame`
> can help you figure out what specifically is taking so long.
>
> I don't think you will find anything wrong with Lubuntu, i.e. doing the
> testing I suggest above should show that the two systems perform very
> similarly. You may find, however, that your system is taking
> exceptionally long. That may be a quirk of what you have installed and
> running on that machine.
>
> > I just checked uname -r and it showed kernel 5.4???
>
> Looks like you're doing something wrong as only 20.04 has 5.4:
> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux
>
> > considering that 20.10 is more or less ubuntu "bleeding edge"
>
> I wouldn't say that is a fair assessment. 20.04 is an LTS release. 20.10
> is a regular release. Hirsute Hippo, which should become 21.04, will be
> another regular release, but is in development. In that sense, the only
> "bleeding edge" one is the one not released: Hirsute. You might argue
> that the regular releases lack the stability of the LTS releases and are
> thus bleeding edge, but I think that would be a poor assessment.
>
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