[xubuntu-users] Hard drives and backup - Was: Am I the only one who still uses floppies?

[Kevin O'Gorman]

Interestng thread, but I take an approach to backups a bit different from
anything I read here.

All of my backups are to desktop HDDs that are not installed, but are used
in external drive docks.  They spend most of their lives on a shelf, and
spin up only when I put them in the dock to take the next backup.  I have
quite a few, so each one waits a long time for its next turn.

I buy new drives when the next larger capacity gets below my pain threshold
-- currently about US$100, which is getting to be 4TB territory, or will be
soon.

I have a few true external drives, but I use them to carry to other places
with large files, not so much for backups.  Most are really old, but I have
a few WD Passport Ultra drives, 2 TB, that are true native USB3.0.  There's
no SATA inside, so some earlier comments in the thread wouldn't apply.
The enclosure is shorter than ones for even laptop drives, and that makes
them fit in my luggage very well.

On Fri, Jul 31, 2015 at 6:12 AM, Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf at rocketmail.com>
wrote:

> On Thu, 30 Jul 2015 14:07:29 -0500, Eric Christopherson wrote:
> >On Thu, Jul 30, 2015, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> >> On Wed, 29 Jul 2015 19:27:34 -0500, Eric Christopherson wrote:
> >> >Is this sort of cycling a danger to internal drives too (ones that
> >> >don't get actively used by the OS, I mean)? I wonder if my internal
> >> >backup drive might be at risk.
> >>
> >> No it isn't a risk as long as you didn't set up the drives to
> >> automatically spin down and sleep when they were not used for a
> >> while.
> >>
> >> The issue with gvfs and similar software is that it wakes up sleeping
> >> drives immediately after a drive spin down.
> >
> >Does this happen if the drive isn't mounted?
>
> Yes, it does.
>
> Btw. if you remove GVFS, then you can't mount drives by click with
> Thunar, but if you e.g. install spacefm, you still can mount with
> mouse-click, but even for spacefm you need to disable some options to
> not wake up the green drive. If you use Rodent you also still can mount
> by mouse click and you don't need to disable anything.
>
> Btw. I'm a command line user, I mount by command line und manage files
> by command line, but assumed for some reason I want to use a graphical
> file manager, then I prefer spacefm over Rodent and Thunar. Best
> features are provided by spacefm, you might need to add some tools to
> your needs, resp. regarding the features Rodent is as good as spacefm,
> but it's too slow when opening directories with many files. The
> performance of spacefm is much better. The only good thing that Thunar
> (without GVFS) has in common with spacefm and rodent is a sane keyboard
> delete option. Thunar performs better than Rodent, but not better than
> spacefm.
>
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