Bug #1208204 - "indicator-sound no longer functions with xfce4-indicator-plugin"

[Alistair Buxton]

PPA with fixed package:

https://launchpad.net/~a-j-buxton/+archive/indicator-sound-gtk2
ppa:a-j-buxton/indicator-sound-gtk2

This doesn't use the workaround from the bug report. It fixes it in a
way which is hopefully compatible with other desktops. It needs
testing though, on systems with both Xubuntu and Unity installed.

On 6 December 2013 09:55, P.K. <pliniusminor at gmail.com> wrote:
> Too much unreasonable negativism, I think. Xubuntu 13.10 is generally a fine
> operating system, of high quality. Stable as a rock and reliable.
>
> The very small group of Xubuntu developers have done a great job, for which
> I'm very grateful to them.
>
> If you want an enterprise grade operating system, pick Xubuntu 12.04 LTS.
> Period. No use spending too much dev time on an operating system that has a
> lifespan of a mere nine months. That time is better spent on the next LTS
> and on the point releases of the current LTS.
>
> That said: I think it would perhaps be a good idea to present the workaround
> for the bug of volume control in the panel, *in full* on the Release Notes
> page of 13.10. Instead of a mere link to the bug report on Launchpad. Easier
> to find, easier to apply.... Maybe with a cautionary word about side effects
> if you have installed other desktop environments as well.
>
> Regards, Pjotr.
>
>
> 2013/12/6 legacy daily <legacydaily at gmail.com>
>>
>> I also felt this was a real issue. Between this and a number of other
>> annoying bugs - like race condition booting from SSD, new users may end up
>> quite disappointed. Hopefully the LTS will have a much higher quality.
>>
>> - George
>>
>> On Dec 5, 2013, at 10:19 AM, Richard Elkins <richard.elkins at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> The issues with bug #1208204 are these:
>>
>> (1) The complaints began in July.  As of 70 milliseconds ago, this bug is
>> not assigned to anyone, with a status of "Undecided", and still marked as
>> "New" to Ubuntu Studio.
>> (2) See Peter Flynn's earlier mail.  Well-articulated IMO.
>> (3) If the indicator-sound package is re-released without a fix to
>> #1208204 (and this has happened at least once), then you have to apply the
>> patch again.  Maybe again and again.  And so on.
>>
>> In message #69 of the bug report, there is an attachment is an automated
>> patch for XFCE users which obviates the need to manually edit the file each
>> time indicator-sound is rolled out without a fix to this issue.  It does
>> take care that it is being used by an XFCE user.  However, it's still a
>> work-around.   A lesser of evils.
>>
>> Some other solutions for non-tech users seeking a light-weight desktop:
>> (1) Go back to Xubuntu 13.04.  Read reviews before attempting an upgrade.
>> (2) Replace Xubuntu with Lubuntu/LXDE.
>> (3) Replace Xubuntu with Mint/MATE.
>>
>> In any of them, users must take care to backup their data somewhere safe
>> before doing a new ground-up installation.  All of them are disruptive and
>> personal time-wasters.
>>
>> Richard
>>
>>
>> On 12/05/2013 11:12 AM, Bruno Benitez wrote:
>>
>> Hi, Pjtor, I am not a programmer, but I see a huge problem with your "very
>> easy" fix, you see, xubuntu shares most and almost all their setting from
>> mainbuntu, so the file /usr/share/dbus-1/services/indicator-sound.service
>> belongs to all the *buntu multiverse, changing its content would have
>> affected all the flavours and then break the ubuntu's panels. Xubuntu would
>> have needed an "special" indicator-sound.service and all the programs that
>> call the service would have to be tuned to use this, as far as i understand.
>>
>>>
>>> Now I readily admit that I'm no developer and I can't fabricate an update
>>> package that does this, but *it looks* dead simple to do, in my layman's
>>> eyes. And it *would* be a big Public Relations bonus for Xubuntu 13.10.
>>
>>
>> It is one of the recommended solutions, to be applied by xubuntu users
>> manually, again we can not ship a modified file because it would break the
>> rest of the flavours.
>>
>> I agree that this was not a nice thing to happen, and that maybe some
>> silly workaround (like simply adding a panel launcher to pavucontrol as
>> default, or adding a standalone sound applet) might have been preferrable,
>> but at the moment no one of us though about this.
>>
>> I can not speak for the rest of xubuntu but I feel a bit ashamed that we
>> let this go through so far as it did.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Br
>> uno.-
>>
>>
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