Bug #1208204 - "indicator-sound no longer functions with xfce4-indicator-plugin"

[P.K.]

Too much unreasonable negativism, I think. Xubuntu 13.10 is generally a
fine operating system, of high quality. Stable as a rock and reliable.

The very small group of Xubuntu developers have done a great job, for which
I'm very grateful to them.

If you want an enterprise grade operating system, pick Xubuntu 12.04 LTS.
Period. No use spending too much dev time on an operating system that has a
lifespan of a mere nine months. That time is better spent on the next LTS
and on the point releases of the current LTS.

That said: I think it would perhaps be a good idea to present the
workaround for the bug of volume control in the panel, *in full* on the
Release Notes page of 13.10. Instead of a mere link to the bug report on
Launchpad. Easier to find, easier to apply.... Maybe with a cautionary word
about side effects if you have installed other desktop environments as well.

Regards, Pjotr.


2013/12/6 legacy daily <legacydaily at gmail.com>

> I also felt this was a real issue. Between this and a number of other
> annoying bugs - like race condition booting from SSD, new users may end up
> quite disappointed. Hopefully the LTS will have a much higher quality.
>
> - George
>
> On Dec 5, 2013, at 10:19 AM, Richard Elkins <richard.elkins at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> The issues with bug #1208204 are these:
>
> (1) The complaints began in July.  As of 70 milliseconds ago, this bug is
> not assigned to anyone, with a status of "Undecided", and still marked as
> "New" to Ubuntu Studio.
> (2) See Peter Flynn's earlier mail.  Well-articulated IMO.
> (3) If the indicator-sound package is re-released without a fix to
> #1208204 (and this has happened at least once), then you have to apply the
> patch again.  Maybe again and again.  And so on.
>
> In message #69 of the bug report, there is an attachment is an automated
> patch for XFCE users which obviates the need to manually edit the file each
> time indicator-sound is rolled out without a fix to this issue.  It does
> take care that it is being used by an XFCE user.  However, it's still a
> work-around.   A lesser of evils.
>
> Some other solutions for non-tech users seeking a light-weight desktop:
> (1) Go back to Xubuntu 13.04.  Read reviews before attempting an upgrade.
> (2) Replace Xubuntu with Lubuntu/LXDE.
> (3) Replace Xubuntu with Mint/MATE.
>
> In any of them, users must take care to backup their data somewhere safe
> before doing a new ground-up installation.  All of them are disruptive and
> personal time-wasters.
>
> Richard
>
>
> On 12/05/2013 11:12 AM, Bruno Benitez wrote:
>
>  Hi, Pjtor, I am not a programmer, but I see a huge problem with your
> "very easy" fix, you see, xubuntu shares most and almost all their setting
> from mainbuntu, so the file
> /usr/share/dbus-1/services/indicator-sound.service belongs to all the
> *buntu multiverse, changing its content would have affected all the
> flavours and then break the ubuntu's panels. Xubuntu would have needed an
> "special" indicator-sound.service and all the programs that call the
> service would have to be tuned to use this, as far as i understand.
>
>
>>  Now I readily admit that I'm no developer and I can't fabricate an
>> update package that does this, but *it looks* dead simple to do, in my
>> layman's eyes. And it *would* be a big Public Relations bonus for Xubuntu
>> 13.10.
>>
>
> It is one of the recommended solutions, to be applied by xubuntu users
> manually, again we can not ship a modified file because it would break the
> rest of the flavours.
>
> I agree that this was not a nice thing to happen, and that maybe some
> silly workaround (like simply adding a panel launcher to pavucontrol as
> default, or adding a standalone sound applet) might have been preferrable,
> but at the moment no one of us though about this.
>
> I can not speak for the rest of xubuntu but I feel a bit ashamed that we
> let this go through so far as it did.
>
>
> --
>   Br
> uno.-
>
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