xubuntu-devel Digest, Vol 86, Issue 7

[AG Restringere]

>
> After I've said all this, please note that it's not meant to be taken
> personally. If you want to make Xubuntu look Ubuntu - by all means do that,
> at least we're running something that allows it.


None taken at all, I had an incomplete understanding of the community
driven aspect of the Xubuntu project but now I get it.

On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 12:03 PM, Pasi Lallinaho <pasi at shimmerproject.org>wrote:

> On 29/11/12 18:20, AG Restringere wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> This is the first time I post to the mailing list so to everyone hello!
>>  I think the major problem with Xubuntu isn't software selection but "look
>> and feel" and corporate branding.  Finding applications on the Ubuntu
>> Software Center or via Synaptic/APT is so easy that it basically any
>> additional packages can just be downloaded after installation.  In fact I
>> don't even think that very many default applications should be included.
>>  The experience should be geared towards customization so I think the focus
>> should be to have a very simple and bare bones default install.
>>
>> Xubuntu should reflect Ubuntu and Canonical and the XFCE logo should be
>> replaced with Canonical oriented graphics and logos that make people know
>> they are using Ubuntu and not a generic XFCE distribution.  The crucial
>> areas are the application menu, greeter screen and the wallpapers.  These
>> should match 100% with the exact same logos, graphics and wallpapers
>> included in the default Ubuntu installs.  I can't really tell the
>> difference between Fedora XFCE and Xubuntu when it's running and that's a
>> major problem.  The difference should be clear as day and people should
>> instantly recognize Xubuntu as the Ubuntu and therefore Canonical oriented
>> XFCE spin.
>>
>> Themes are also very important.  The icons should be by default Faenza so
>> to create a very cool and fresh look that matches well with the Ubuntu
>> Unity icon sets.  The actual XFCE themes by default should match standard
>> Unity Ubuntu installations with a Xubuntu specific theme port of both
>> Ambiance and Radiance.  These themes should be default but greybird,
>> bluebird and albatross should also be included.  The whole idea is to
>> create an experience that visually matches with whatever the Ubuntu Unity
>> guys are doing and is parallel.
>>
>> Most of my time is spent customizing the look and feel of Xubuntu to get
>> it to look sharp, cool and to match well with the thematic aspects of
>> Ubuntu Unity.  This shouldn't ever happen.  Out of the box Xubuntu should
>> match up 1:1 with the Ubuntu Unity look and feel and Canonical branding
>> efforts.  I even had to replace the Xfce mouse icon with the official
>> Ubuntu logo in the application menu and I wish that it was this way by
>> default.
>>
>
> I couldn't disagree more with everything you just said.
>
> While Xubuntu is a recognized flavor, it is community-driven. That means
> it should match what the community wants to do, how they want it to look,
> which features it should have by default etc...
>
> If Canonical made us work to look exactly like the standard Ubuntu
> installation, we might as well quit. I would. There's no sense to work on
> something that you don't believe and don't like the looks of - voluntarily.
>
> After I've said all this, please note that it's not meant to be taken
> personally. If you want to make Xubuntu look Ubuntu - by all means do that,
> at least we're running something that allows it.
>
>
>
>> Just my thoughts and thank you for an awesome distribution...
>>
>> Best,
>> Alex
>>
>>
> Thanks for the compliments!
>
> Pasi Lallinaho
> Xubuntu Project Lead
>
> --
> Pasi Lallinaho (knome)                      » http://open.knome.fi/
> Leader of Shimmer Project and Xubuntu       » http://shimmerproject.org/
> Graphic artist, webdesigner, Ubuntu member  » http://xubuntu.org/
>
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