My wishes list

Martin Rogalla jorn.rogalla at
Thu Dec 27 02:12:09 UTC 2012


I agree with Imre on this. Leon, to me it seems that your perfect
operating system is just a few steps away and you don't want it to
ever change afterwards.
For me Xubuntu is something which will always change. It will remain
lightweight, stable, fast and flexible, since these are the ground
Some changes can definitely be made to make it easier and more
overview-able for the user.

For example I do believe the settings manager could have a much better
overview. Right now it's not that straight-forward to find a few
things there.
When I would like to change keyboard shortcuts to minimize my window I
have to check the settings under window manager, if would like to
change what happens to my prt sc button, I have to look under
keyboard-> application shortcuts. Why can't I have an overview of all
global keyboard shortcuts in one section?

Further I think that the notification area(Indicator plugin) should be
more customizable, it doesn't have any options at the moment.

I really love the current design and even though my system is a really
light-weight system, it doesn't look cheap or old, it looks really

Keep up the good work everyone!

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!

Sincerely Yours,

Martin Rogalla

On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 12:58 AM, Benedek Imre <nucleo at> wrote:
> Hi Leon,
> I agree and disagree with you at the same time. Yes, one of the most
> important value of Xubuntu is it's lightweight, it's fast and flexible. I
> don't think the developers want to give up these values. But! There are more
> possibility to beautify, to give more uniqueness, to strengthen the identity
> of this distro by default. To do this is absolutely not equal to Xubuntu
> have to be heavyweight and slow.
> Some example:
> - I think the Settings are a bit helter-skelter. Why do I have to open 2 or
> 3 panel item to fine tune the appearance? The desktop wallpaper settings
> panel is really awful. Some of the settings open a new window - I know its
> reason, but it's not elegant. If the developers redesign and reorganize
> these settings items and tabs they do not slow down the system and do not
> need more space in the release.
> - I don't think if there could be a unique application menu based on the
> application finder it causes slow down or Xubuntu will be heavyweight
> because of this.
> - If the 'About' menu could show a stronger Xubuntu identity it does not
> eventuate system slow down.
> These are just ideas of course. Yes, a lot of customization can made
> manually, but if we neglect the design, it's the same if Apple (for example)
> sells motherboards, CPUs and RAM moduls and everybody have to assemble them
> by himself.
> ONE OF THE KEYS TO SUCCESS IS THE DESIGN. Lightweight and design are not
> mutually exclusive things.
> I've read "Not that the beauty don't count, but"... so I know what You mean,
> I just want to declare design is very important (beside others of course).
> Sincerely, Imre
> -- Eredeti üzenet --
> Feladó: Leon diniz da costa <leondc1 at>
> Címzett: xub devel <xubuntu-devel at>
> Elküldve: 2012. december 26. 12:32
> Tárgy : My wishes list
> One thing that i hope in Xubuntu, now and in the future it is that xubuntu
> team don't try to reinvented him self 180°.
> Today i don't think in Xubuntu as a Ubuntu or Windows replacer, but in a
> another option, a option that match 88% of my desires.
> And what i hope from the xubuntu team it is that the beauty point is not the
> point that must have all the focus and attentions, i don't wanna a Ubuntu
> that is beautifully but consume a giga on startup and is slows and a slug
> and looks that the only goal of them is to make Unity more and more heavier,
> oops, beautiful ( what is a sad thing because when i start in Linux world,
> one thing that amazed me is that Ubuntu was very, very fast, much more that
> windows vista and XP, but today Ubuntu is as much heavy as Windows 7). And i
> hope that Xubuntu Team NEVER do this kind of exchange, performance x beauty
> or.. much less, lot less performance and little more beauty. Like i said,
> for me Xubuntu already had a great beautiful, great aspect and feeling
> level, don't need to have a big focus on this side. There is a plenty of
> themes out there and a infinity amount of wallpapers, even a picture of my
> hand i can use and wallpaper, just give a way to find and change this by
> myself in a easier way.
> You can even create a account on 4shared or other site and put there all
> themes that match perfect with Xubuntu and then you have the default theme
> and a place to find others theme and no a bunch of theme per-instaled
> making the whole system heavier, i can use i for a example, i change the
> color of the panel in PANEL PREFERENCES and in Appearance choose a solid
> color and is done, choose a color with eyedropper and don't touch in there
> anymore.
> Will be the customization , stability and low power hungry that will make us
> happier and bring more people to Xubuntu. Not that the beauty don't count,
> but, for me is almost that i expect Xubuntu, in release that xubuntu has
> updated, with the last kernel, the last whole XFCE(thunar, painel, terminal
> and others) the updated apps as the last stable Firefox/ evince, the last
> drivers and MORE and MORE smoothness in stability, in performance in bug
> fix, in the programs inter-integration.
> Like Pasi said "the same, but, better!" when i heard that i thing "music to
> my ears!"
> I guess the better way to make change is changing a little release by
> release.
> And i think only the critical things must be drastically changed.
> And not just that.
> Please, user, developers and lovers of xubuntu, don't try look to others
> distros to copy nothing. Xubuntu don't need the dash or mint menu.
> The Menu of Xubuntu is a CLASSIC, works REALLY FINE. lightweight,
> customizable and i can get what i want fast, and if i don't want to go the i
> can bring some icon to the painel or create a whole menu only with things
> that i need as quick as i can.
> I use Xubuntu in three monitors in home and i can do whatever i want, put
> four panel in each monitor, just one that can show or disappear or none and
> is this what i love in xubuntu, work perfect in my power horse desktop and
> in my rabbit power laptop and this is really great because when i like one
> program in my desk i can put the same in my lap and go to anywhere.
> Xubuntu is my perfect OS i guess about two years or a little more, am always
> trying other distros and am always running back for xubuntu.
> So... get lighter, get stable, get smoother, get updated and please keep the
> great job.
> Let me choose more options in a easier way and more wide way.
> Always with solid choices and a way to make everything in the default again.
> During the time that i writing this email in other monitor i look for or try
> to find the right words to write(because i am not a native English language
> , i am from Brazil) and in other i  am installing and test Xubuntu daily
> build 64b  03-12-12 on O.V.Box and in my lap i am using 13.04 64b sense the
> first day that was release.
> So...
> Once more, thanks very much for Xubuntu
> Mais uma vez, muito obrigado por manterem o Xubuntu eu acho ele ótimo, quase
> perfeito.
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