Claws-Mail Icon Theme

Steve Dodier sidnioulz at
Mon Jun 22 09:48:44 UTC 2009

Heya Simon,

As I told you, I think the need for so many non-stock icons come from a
design problem in the GUI. Evolution is quite advanced too and yet manages
to use the stock icons. I agree that there may be missing icons in fd.o's
icons lists, but in this case the claws developers should try to get them
included there instead of using internal icons.

Anyways, I'd love it if we could know (ie. be 100% sure) which client to use
before august, so I could code a plugin for proper indicator-applet support
(and remove the messy notifications ! meh).


PS : Good luck for your thesis !

2009/6/22 Simon Steinbeiß <simon.steinbeiss at>

> Hey everyone,
> after a few discussions on #xubuntu-devel, which were following up on the
> mailclient
> review I tried to do for Karmic a while ago, I'd like to post something
> that might (or
> might not) be interesting for you.
> One critical point that applies to both Thunderbird and Claws-Mail is
> icon-consistency.
> Since both of them mostly don't use stock icons, they tend to make the look
> and feel
> inconsistent with the rest.
> At least for Claws I would like to give an update on this point: I had a
> quick discussion
> with one of the claws-devs and he basically confirmed what I had assumed,
> that it would
> make the whole app even more inconsistent if they tried to use more stock
> icons. That's
> because Claws *needs* a lot of icons that don't have equivalents in most
> icon themes (I'm
> almost sure that at least 50% of the icons used by Claws you can't find in
> *any*
> gnome/xfce icon theme out there).
> Let me give you a quick example to illustrate this point: for directories
> alone there are
> four states (multiply that by 2, because there is an icon for open and one
> for closed
> dirs): normal, hidden-read-message, marked-message, hidden-read-message and
> marked-message.
> Now for these states there are no equivalents as far as I could find out
> and I don't
> think there will be any anytime soon. That's why I think it makes sense for
> them to stick
> to their own icon themes. (The point is that if a theme lacks these icons,
> Claws will use
> its internal iconset instead and that means you end up in an even more
> unpleasant,
> inconsistent visual mess.)
> I totally agree though that every app should have a consistent look (and
> feel) with the
> rest of the desktop, so I decided to do an icon theme that is built to
> resemble Xubuntu's
> standard icon theme at the moment (I also reckoned that this wouldn't
> change for Karmic,
> at least from what I could conclude after a few discussions with knome on
> the subject),
> gnome-brave. It may not be perfect yet, but there are all the icons you
> need.
> At the moment it's not yet available at the claws-mail site even though I
> submitted it a
> while ago, but I'd like to provide an alternative download for the
> meantime. So for
> those of you who are interested, you can get the theme here:
> (Also: as soon as it's in the themes-package on the claws-site it means
> that it would
> hopefully be included in the claws-mail-themes package available in the
> repos; at least
> if the packagers decide to use an up-to-date version of the archive for
> Karmic.)
> Alright, I see now that this message has become a bit lenghty considering
> the weight of
> the subject, but I still hope it does some good.
> All the best,
> Simon
> PS: Sorry for not being able to be more active in recent discussions, but
> I'm busy
> finishing my thesis until the end of the month (keepingfingerscrossed).
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