Jérôme Guelfucci jerome.guelfucci at
Sun Jan 6 10:59:00 UTC 2008

I've discussed this a bit with Lionel, everything highy depends on
whether we are demoted to universe or not. If we are demoted to
universe this opens a lot of possibilities: vlc, audacious... If we
keep totem, I personnaly prefer totem-xine as it plays dvds correctly
once libdvdcss2 is installed.

vlc is not very intuitive, but it plays everything, is very light (I
can feel the difference on my P2 450Mhz :) ) and its mozilla plugin is
really good compared with the totem one, which almost never works for
me. Moreover this would reduce our gnome-deps.

Concerning Add/Remove... I think that an "Add/Remove Applications" in
the Applications menu is the better choice.

On Jan 6, 2008 11:19 AM, Jani Monoses <jani at> wrote:
> Vincent wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Either I made a mistake, or somehow there just was no meeting yesterday:
> >
> > (Yes, I know, I should've sent out a reminder)
> >
> > Anyway, there were two issues I wanted to raise:
> >
> >  * totem-xine vs. totem-gstreamer
> >
> > When we decided to use totem-xine instead of totem-gstreamer, I think we
> > forgot one thing: totem-xine conflicts with totem-gstreamer. As a
> > result, xubuntu-desktop now conflicts with ubuntu-desktop. I suppose
> > this is a problem, so perhaps we could reconsider totem-gstreamer for
> > Hardy?
> We should do what ubuntu-desktop has and recommend totem not a
> particular backend of it (xine or gstreamer), then they would not
> conflict. Even now ubuntu-desktop is fine with totem-xine
> That said, gstreamer may be a better choice for xubuntu as well, so we
> take advantage of the automatic codec installation wizard of gstreamer
> for newbies who cannot figure out what they need for totem-xine. And the
> documentation form Ubuntu would apply verbatim. Gstreamer is (at least
> partly) in the desktop I think, via pidgin.
> >
> >  * Add/Remove...
> >
> > I added this to the agenda in some meeting before, but since I couldn't
> > make it then, I could not elaborate on it.
> > In my opinion, the location of the "Add/Remove..." application is a bit
> > odd. When I first used Linux (that was Ubuntu Warty) I did not know how
> > to install applications. Back then, I believe there wasn't even an
> > Add/Remove... At present, however, it is easy to find out in Ubuntu how
> > to install applications: Applications->Add/Remove...
> > In Xubuntu, it isn't that logical, because there just is an
> > "Add/Remove..." application that is located in the System menu. It isn't
> > called "Add/Remove Applications" or something, and I guess it'd be more
> > clear in the main menu anyway.
> > So what do you think?
> >
> We should have it where Ubuntu does, in the bottom of the main menu, not
> in a separate category. I thought that we already did that. If not it
> should be easy to add in the menu file.
> thanks for bringing these up.
> Jani
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