Jani Monoses jani at
Sun Jan 6 10:19:43 UTC 2008

Vincent wrote:
> Hi,
> Either I made a mistake, or somehow there just was no meeting yesterday: 
> (Yes, I know, I should've sent out a reminder)
> Anyway, there were two issues I wanted to raise:
>  * totem-xine vs. totem-gstreamer
> When we decided to use totem-xine instead of totem-gstreamer, I think we 
> forgot one thing: totem-xine conflicts with totem-gstreamer. As a 
> result, xubuntu-desktop now conflicts with ubuntu-desktop. I suppose 
> this is a problem, so perhaps we could reconsider totem-gstreamer for 
> Hardy?

We should do what ubuntu-desktop has and recommend totem not a 
particular backend of it (xine or gstreamer), then they would not 
conflict. Even now ubuntu-desktop is fine with totem-xine

That said, gstreamer may be a better choice for xubuntu as well, so we 
take advantage of the automatic codec installation wizard of gstreamer 
for newbies who cannot figure out what they need for totem-xine. And the 
documentation form Ubuntu would apply verbatim. Gstreamer is (at least 
partly) in the desktop I think, via pidgin.

>  * Add/Remove...
> I added this to the agenda in some meeting before, but since I couldn't 
> make it then, I could not elaborate on it.
> In my opinion, the location of the "Add/Remove..." application is a bit 
> odd. When I first used Linux (that was Ubuntu Warty) I did not know how 
> to install applications. Back then, I believe there wasn't even an 
> Add/Remove... At present, however, it is easy to find out in Ubuntu how 
> to install applications: Applications->Add/Remove...
> In Xubuntu, it isn't that logical, because there just is an 
> "Add/Remove..." application that is located in the System menu. It isn't 
> called "Add/Remove Applications" or something, and I guess it'd be more 
> clear in the main menu anyway.
> So what do you think?

We should have it where Ubuntu does, in the bottom of the main menu, not 
in a separate category. I thought that we already did that. If not it 
should be easy to add in the menu file.

thanks for bringing these up.


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