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Jérôme Guelfucci jerome.guelfucci at
Tue Feb 5 17:48:26 UTC 2008

Xubuntu is ubuntu because it takes advantage of the kernel, udev..
work, the restricted manager, the community, the repos with very
updated stuff.

BUT what's the point in putting the same applications as in Ubuntu ?
It's only duplicting stuff, and is totally useless. It would be better
to contribute directly to Ubuntu in that case.

What's the point in putting things like gnome-mount, gnome-system
monitor, gnome-screensaver when we can promote the xfce applications


For me and for most people I know, except the ones I see in that
mailing list, Xubuntu is a distro that takes advantage of Ubuntu to
provide a desktop based on *XFCE*. Like Kubuntu does, Ubuntu with KDE.
Unfortunately the user friendly goal of Ubuntu was converted in "let's
ship gnome applications" instead of "let's impove xfce".

On Feb 5, 2008 6:40 PM, Jani Monoses <jani at> wrote:
> Kaspar Kööp wrote:
> >
> >     Where did you get that idea? Xubuntu should ship what is best for users
> >     not be guided by something as void of substance as 'ships Xfce'.
> >     And I prefer not to reread Jerome's mails as the ones he wrote so far on
> >     the subject duck the issue and only contain ideology.
> >
> >
> >
> > hmm... are you saying that ideology is not important? i think there is
> I said 'only ideology'. And yes, only ideology is dangerous, if it is
> the negative type that drives those who want Xubuntu 'not be Ubuntu' or
> 'not be a GNOME clone'. I am not sure what other stated goal could be
> further from being technical, feature or user oriented, or devoid of
> substance.
> I have been repeatedly asking for reason for the changes and noone has
> come forward with them, just as noone has successfully defended them
> during Gutsy.
> Does tha mean that I abuse my so called powers or that you really have
> no better case than putting Xubuntu together based on what you do not
> want it to be, being vague about technical issues, and making up user
> requirements, and cannot reasonably argue in favor of your point of view?
> Jani
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