Some thoughts about xubuntu hardy

Vincent imnotb at
Wed Nov 7 10:46:09 UTC 2007

On 07/11/2007, Stefan Schwarzburg <stefan.schwarzburg at> wrote:
> Hi,
> 2007/11/7, Vincent <imnotb at>:
> >
> >
> >
> > From a usability point of view this is a disaster. Well, not a disaster,
> > but not optimal too. The screen corners are the areas that are clicked most
> > easily, so not placing anything there is terrible. A panel ought to be full
> > width to at least be able to put e.g. the applications menu and a "Show
> > desktop" button in the corners. I could agree with the top panel being
> > removed because then you use the hot corner in the top right-hand side for
> > the close button of windows, but a panel that is not full width is terrible.
> > Furthermore, IMHO it looks weird, when you have a window open to be able to
> > view the desktop.
> >
> You are right, the corners are important. This is the reason, why I don't
> want a panel there: On my desktop, a right-click gives me the menu and since
> I always like to have a menu at hand, at least one corner is always free.

How about adding a launcher that runs "xfce4-popup-windowlist"? This is more
a matter of personal preference, I haven't met that many people (you're the
first) that always want to be able to do this.

Then there is the switching of the workspaces with the mousewheel. This also
> can only be done on the desktop (or the pager, I know), but since "The
> screen corners are the areas that are clicked most easily", this is more
> simple.

Why? You can add the pager to a screen corner. And in any case, scrolling is
way too obscure compared to clicking (which you can use with the pager to
switch desktops).

Then there is the option to have Compiz. With Compiz it's also interesting
> to have a free desktop space to switch/rotate and the corners can be
> configured to expose/scale... just when the mouse reaches them. If you have
> configured the corners to trigger an expose, it's bad to have buttons there.

Sure, but we don't ship Compiz by default. And even if you install Compiz,
the corners aren't configured to trigger anything by default, which means
you have to set it yourself which means you can also remove the buttons
yourself. We're talking default setups here, personal preferences shouldn't
get in the way of that.

> Stefan

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