Matt Price matt.price at
Wed Oct 12 19:06:52 UTC 2005

On Wed, 2005-10-12 at 21:09 +0300, Jani Monoses wrote:
> On 10/12/05, Matt Price <matt.price at> wrote:
>         On Wed, 2005-10-12 at 08:50 +0300, Jani Monoses wrote:
>         I am actually getting to be ok at building ubuntu install cd's
>         now, so I
>         could probably build one on my own -- all I would need would
>         be an 
>         exhaustive (recursive?) list of xubuntu-desktop's dependencies
>         (and
>         maybe also the dependencies of "suggested" & "recommended"
>         packages).
>         Is there a straightforward way to get this, preferably in a
>         form that 
>         can be passed to xargs?  apt-cache depends seems to show only
>         the
>         immediate dependencies, not the dependencies of
>         dependencies...
> The canonical devs said they will help building CDs after this
> realease is out, based
> on what is now in universe. The current xubuntu-desktop package (1.3)
> should contain
> a lot more of the needed packages. What I find that is missing in
> xubuntu and unfortunatley
> I could not finish in time are the the following: (there are probably
> others too)
> 1) A display manager or someother way to take the user into X. I tried
> wdm today, it works, but it's not
> in the deafult install rigth now.
> 2) Talked a lot about ivman but did not get around to integrate it
> with rox-filer.
> 3) Printing
> 4) polishing (panel and menu settings, wallpaper)
> Still hopefully the CDs will be somewhat usable :)
> So thanks for the offer, maybe you can help in the process of
> selecting what to be on the CD, as I think
> there is going to be some space left besides what's in xubuntu-desktop
> now.
> BTW for the exhaustive list of deps the CD builder uses the germinate
> package (it's in the repo), and the seed descriptions.
thanks for this info, I'm getting closer to understanding how the
cd-building process works -- thus far I have simply modified existing
cd's by adding/subtracting packages, giving preseed config values, and
regenerating Release & Release.gpg...  I look forward to understanding
the seed process more fully, hopefully that will simplify the cd
creation process somewhat.  

Anyway, if there's space left I'd really like to see 1
included in the "ship" seed -- many of my students, for instance, will
probably end up in a mostly-windows world, and unlike abiword, OOo is
available for windows.  If Ivman really works as well as the folks on
this list say, it would be great to have integrated into xfce4 (upstream
as well, maybe!).  gnome-volume-manager is great but a little heavy as I

Also I think some good documentation is essential, I find the Ubuntu
docs a little weak even in hte vanilla version.  I love xfce4 and use it
exclusively myself, but it's a little less self-explanatory to linux
converts than gnome or kde, so better docs would be very helpful.  I'd
love to help with this part of the project in particular.  


> Jani

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