[Ubuntu-ZW] Timezone issues, potentially quite bad
Kalpesh Thaker
luminary06 at gmail.com
Fri Mar 15 06:38:04 UTC 2013
Morning Orion,
Apologies.. due to a combination of no ZESA and the adsl POP being off in
my area last.. i couldn't do much.
will look into it more today though..
im thinking of trying out KDE and kmail on a debian stable release..as well
as an older ubuntu LTS to see if we have the same issue...
kalpesh
On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 6:53 AM, O. Sinclair <o.sinclair at gmail.com> wrote:
> Morning,
>
> did you find time and did you manage to find out anything else regarding
> this? I have the issue brought on kdepim users list and on kdeforums but so
> far nothing much to verify this as either KMail but or error in timezone
> data.
>
> Sinclair
>
> On 13/03/2013 15:51, Kalpesh Thaker wrote:
>
>> I've tried looking online... most people have mentioned that kmail will
>> only pull tz data off the OS. if thunderbird is doing that too, and
>> doesnt have a problem.. then its a bit confusing. when you think about
>> it, Lusaka Zambia use the exact same tz as us...so it could be incorrect
>> tz data for Zimbabwe in the OS itself that kmail seems to pick up from
>> somewhere.
>>
>> i'll try and do more research this evening to see if we can find anything
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 3:32 PM, O. Sinclair <o.sinclair at gmail.com
>> <mailto:o.sinclair at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> To my knowledge KMail has no setting for timezone, I have asked on
>> kdeforums/KDEPIM if anyone is aware of any "rc" (settings) file but
>> not seen any reply.
>>
>> I am suspecting either a weird KMail bug or a faulty timezones
>> "template" for Africa/Harare
>>
>>
>>
>> On 13/03/2013 10:39, Kalpesh Thaker wrote:
>>
>> Ahh, you are correct!
>>
>> "From: kt <kt at thejoker>
>> To: kalpesh at webdevworld.com <mailto:kalpesh at webdevworld.**com<kalpesh at webdevworld.com>
>> >
>> <mailto:kalpesh at webdevworld.__**com <mailto:kalpesh at webdevworld.*
>> *com <kalpesh at webdevworld.com>>>
>>
>>
>> Subject: test
>> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 10:31:18 +0204
>> Message-ID: <2291584.5WqPz9Rkts at thejoker>
>> X-KMail-Identity: 101880761
>> User-Agent: KMail/4.8.5 (Linux/3.2.0-31-generic-pae; KDE/4.8.5;
>> i686; ; )
>> MIME-Version: 1.0
>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" "
>>
>> What really weird, is that im subscribed a few lists, like debian
>> security and a few others. havent had any bounces yet.
>>
>> using thunderbird, i get:
>>
>> "From - Wed Mar 13 10:37:59 2013
>>
>> X-Mozilla-Status: 0001
>> X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000
>> X-Mozilla-Keys:
>> Message-ID: <51403AE7.3020205 at webdevworld.**__com
>> <mailto:51403AE7.3020205@**webdevworld.com<51403AE7.3020205 at webdevworld.com>
>> >
>> <mailto:51403AE7.3020205 at __web**devworld.com<http://webdevworld.com>
>> <mailto:51403AE7.3020205@**webdevworld.com<51403AE7.3020205 at webdevworld.com>
>> >>>
>> Disposition-Notification-To: kalpesh thaker
>> <kalpesh at webdevworld.com <mailto:kalpesh at webdevworld.**com<kalpesh at webdevworld.com>
>> >
>> <mailto:kalpesh at webdevworld.__**com
>>
>> <mailto:kalpesh at webdevworld.**com <kalpesh at webdevworld.com>>>>
>>
>> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 10:37:59 +0200
>> From: kalpesh thaker <kalpesh at webdevworld.com
>> <mailto:kalpesh at webdevworld.**com <kalpesh at webdevworld.com>>
>> <mailto:kalpesh at webdevworld.__**com
>>
>> <mailto:kalpesh at webdevworld.**com <kalpesh at webdevworld.com>>>>
>>
>> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0)
>> Gecko/20130221 Thunderbird/17.0.3
>> MIME-Version: 1.0
>> To:kalpesh at hosting.co.zw <mailto:To%3Akalpesh at hosting.**co.zw<To%253Akalpesh at hosting.co.zw>
>> >
>> <mailto:kalpesh at hosting.co.zw <mailto:kalpesh at hosting.co.zw>**>
>>
>>
>> Subject: test
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit"
>>
>> im having a look to see if its possible to change that time zone
>> manually in kmail.
>>
>> kalpesh
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 9:44 AM, O. Sinclair
>> <o.sinclair at gmail.com <mailto:o.sinclair at gmail.com>
>> <mailto:o.sinclair at gmail.com <mailto:o.sinclair at gmail.com>>**>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Kalpesh,
>>
>> no this is not a host issue, I use different sending hosts
>> depending
>> on account and also then it would not change if I changed
>> timezone.
>>
>> It is KMail (and other clients) that sets a Date field in the
>> headers and that defaults to UTC +0200 or whatever offset
>> to UTC you
>> happen to be in. UTC +0204 is in other clearly wrong.
>>
>> Just to test I swapped again and the problem returned.
>>
>> If you are using KMail, open a sent mail, do View All
>> Headers and
>> look for the Date field and see what value you have, then
>> we can
>> compare.
>>
>> Best,
>> Orion
>>
>>
>> On 13/03/2013 08:55, Kalpesh Thaker wrote:
>>
>> Hi Orion,
>>
>> Im actually using kmail myself. im subscribed to quite
>> a few forums
>> online and havent had any issues when posting or
>> replying to
>> threads.
>> confirm that in the headers, its your host that has the
>> incorrect time,
>> and not one of the relays from your ISP?
>>
>> Im noticing you're seeing UTC. your universal time should
>> actually be 2
>> hours behind.. so the correct date on your computer
>> should be:
>>
>> Current default time zone: 'Africa/Harare'
>> Local time is now: Wed Mar 13 08:53:47 CAT 2013.
>> Universal Time is now: Wed Mar 13 06:53:47 UTC 2013.
>>
>> you can double check your time zone on your OS from the
>> command
>> line:
>>
>> "sudo date"
>>
>> then change/confirm your tz using:
>>
>> "sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata"
>>
>> once thats done, sync your clock:
>>
>> "sudo ntpdate pool.ntp.org <http://pool.ntp.org>
>> <http://pool.ntp.org>
>> <http://pool.ntp.org>" --> check that ntpdate
>>
>> is installed first.
>>
>> cheers,
>>
>> kalpesh
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 8:48 AM, O. Sinclair
>> <o.sinclair at gmail.com <mailto:o.sinclair at gmail.com>
>> <mailto:o.sinclair at gmail.com <mailto:o.sinclair at gmail.com>>
>> <mailto:o.sinclair at gmail.com
>> <mailto:o.sinclair at gmail.com> <mailto:o.sinclair at gmail.com
>> <mailto:o.sinclair at gmail.com>>**>__> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> am using Kubuntu 12.10 with all updates and such.
>>
>> A while ago I posted some issues on the kde-devel
>> list that was
>> initially rejected as spam. I had some discussions
>> with the
>> list
>> administrator Ben Cooksley.
>>
>> He informed me that a major problem was that my
>> sending
>> headers were
>> set to date as UTC +0204. As we in Harare are UTC
>> +0200
>> this meant
>> all kinds of spamassasin and friends believed my
>> mails to
>> be some
>> kind of bogey.
>>
>> You can see this in a sent mail by viewing All
>> Headers and
>> look for
>> Date sent or similar.
>>
>> My question to fellow ubuntu-users with computers
>> set to
>> timezone
>> Africa/Harare is of course:
>> Am I the only one having this issue?
>> Is it possibly a KMail issue or are
>> Thunderbird/Evolution users
>> seeing it as well?
>>
>> If it is "just me" I will have to figure out what
>> is wrong
>> with my
>> setup (changing to Lusaka/Zambia fixed it btw).
>> If it is KMail then I have to bug the devs
>> If it is Ubuntu time to file a bug there
>>
>> Kind regards
>> Sinclair
>>
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