[Ubuntu-ZW] Timezone issues, potentially quite bad
O. Sinclair
o.sinclair at gmail.com
Fri Mar 15 04:53:21 UTC 2013
Morning,
did you find time and did you manage to find out anything else regarding
this? I have the issue brought on kdepim users list and on kdeforums but
so far nothing much to verify this as either KMail but or error in
timezone data.
Sinclair
On 13/03/2013 15:51, Kalpesh Thaker wrote:
> I've tried looking online... most people have mentioned that kmail will
> only pull tz data off the OS. if thunderbird is doing that too, and
> doesnt have a problem.. then its a bit confusing. when you think about
> it, Lusaka Zambia use the exact same tz as us...so it could be incorrect
> tz data for Zimbabwe in the OS itself that kmail seems to pick up from
> somewhere.
>
> i'll try and do more research this evening to see if we can find anything
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 3:32 PM, O. Sinclair <o.sinclair at gmail.com
> <mailto:o.sinclair at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> To my knowledge KMail has no setting for timezone, I have asked on
> kdeforums/KDEPIM if anyone is aware of any "rc" (settings) file but
> not seen any reply.
>
> I am suspecting either a weird KMail bug or a faulty timezones
> "template" for Africa/Harare
>
>
>
> On 13/03/2013 10:39, Kalpesh Thaker wrote:
>
> Ahh, you are correct!
>
> "From: kt <kt at thejoker>
> To: kalpesh at webdevworld.com <mailto:kalpesh at webdevworld.com>
> <mailto:kalpesh at webdevworld.__com <mailto:kalpesh at webdevworld.com>>
>
> Subject: test
> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 10:31:18 +0204
> Message-ID: <2291584.5WqPz9Rkts at thejoker>
> X-KMail-Identity: 101880761
> User-Agent: KMail/4.8.5 (Linux/3.2.0-31-generic-pae; KDE/4.8.5;
> i686; ; )
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" "
>
> What really weird, is that im subscribed a few lists, like debian
> security and a few others. havent had any bounces yet.
>
> using thunderbird, i get:
>
> "From - Wed Mar 13 10:37:59 2013
>
> X-Mozilla-Status: 0001
> X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000
> X-Mozilla-Keys:
> Message-ID: <51403AE7.3020205 at webdevworld.__com
> <mailto:51403AE7.3020205 at webdevworld.com>
> <mailto:51403AE7.3020205 at __webdevworld.com
> <mailto:51403AE7.3020205 at webdevworld.com>>>
> Disposition-Notification-To: kalpesh thaker
> <kalpesh at webdevworld.com <mailto:kalpesh at webdevworld.com>
> <mailto:kalpesh at webdevworld.__com
> <mailto:kalpesh at webdevworld.com>>>
>
> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 10:37:59 +0200
> From: kalpesh thaker <kalpesh at webdevworld.com
> <mailto:kalpesh at webdevworld.com>
> <mailto:kalpesh at webdevworld.__com
> <mailto:kalpesh at webdevworld.com>>>
>
> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0)
> Gecko/20130221 Thunderbird/17.0.3
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> To:kalpesh at hosting.co.zw <mailto:To%3Akalpesh at hosting.co.zw>
> <mailto:kalpesh at hosting.co.zw <mailto:kalpesh at hosting.co.zw>>
>
> Subject: test
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit"
>
> im having a look to see if its possible to change that time zone
> manually in kmail.
>
> kalpesh
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 9:44 AM, O. Sinclair
> <o.sinclair at gmail.com <mailto:o.sinclair at gmail.com>
> <mailto:o.sinclair at gmail.com <mailto:o.sinclair at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>
> Hi Kalpesh,
>
> no this is not a host issue, I use different sending hosts
> depending
> on account and also then it would not change if I changed
> timezone.
>
> It is KMail (and other clients) that sets a Date field in the
> headers and that defaults to UTC +0200 or whatever offset
> to UTC you
> happen to be in. UTC +0204 is in other clearly wrong.
>
> Just to test I swapped again and the problem returned.
>
> If you are using KMail, open a sent mail, do View All
> Headers and
> look for the Date field and see what value you have, then
> we can
> compare.
>
> Best,
> Orion
>
>
> On 13/03/2013 08:55, Kalpesh Thaker wrote:
>
> Hi Orion,
>
> Im actually using kmail myself. im subscribed to quite
> a few forums
> online and havent had any issues when posting or
> replying to
> threads.
> confirm that in the headers, its your host that has the
> incorrect time,
> and not one of the relays from your ISP?
>
> Im noticing you're seeing UTC. your universal time should
> actually be 2
> hours behind.. so the correct date on your computer
> should be:
>
> Current default time zone: 'Africa/Harare'
> Local time is now: Wed Mar 13 08:53:47 CAT 2013.
> Universal Time is now: Wed Mar 13 06:53:47 UTC 2013.
>
> you can double check your time zone on your OS from the
> command
> line:
>
> "sudo date"
>
> then change/confirm your tz using:
>
> "sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata"
>
> once thats done, sync your clock:
>
> "sudo ntpdate pool.ntp.org <http://pool.ntp.org>
> <http://pool.ntp.org>
> <http://pool.ntp.org>" --> check that ntpdate
>
> is installed first.
>
> cheers,
>
> kalpesh
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 8:48 AM, O. Sinclair
> <o.sinclair at gmail.com <mailto:o.sinclair at gmail.com>
> <mailto:o.sinclair at gmail.com <mailto:o.sinclair at gmail.com>>
> <mailto:o.sinclair at gmail.com
> <mailto:o.sinclair at gmail.com> <mailto:o.sinclair at gmail.com
> <mailto:o.sinclair at gmail.com>>>__> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> am using Kubuntu 12.10 with all updates and such.
>
> A while ago I posted some issues on the kde-devel
> list that was
> initially rejected as spam. I had some discussions
> with the
> list
> administrator Ben Cooksley.
>
> He informed me that a major problem was that my
> sending
> headers were
> set to date as UTC +0204. As we in Harare are UTC
> +0200
> this meant
> all kinds of spamassasin and friends believed my
> mails to
> be some
> kind of bogey.
>
> You can see this in a sent mail by viewing All
> Headers and
> look for
> Date sent or similar.
>
> My question to fellow ubuntu-users with computers
> set to
> timezone
> Africa/Harare is of course:
> Am I the only one having this issue?
> Is it possibly a KMail issue or are
> Thunderbird/Evolution users
> seeing it as well?
>
> If it is "just me" I will have to figure out what
> is wrong
> with my
> setup (changing to Lusaka/Zambia fixed it btw).
> If it is KMail then I have to bug the devs
> If it is Ubuntu time to file a bug there
>
> Kind regards
> Sinclair
>
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