[Ubuntu-ZW] Timezone issues, potentially quite bad
O. Sinclair
o.sinclair at gmail.com
Wed Mar 13 16:53:58 UTC 2013
just to "help" I got a reply on kdepim-users list where a guy in SA says
he sees the problem also in Kontact using google-calendar and even worse
gets 1 hour offset if he sets timezone to Johannesburg..
So more and more it points to a KDE or KDEPIM issue.
BTW he also now "lives" in Lusaka to fix the problems. Told him it must
be the only situation where Lusaka works better than Johannesburg :-)
On 13/03/2013 15:51, Kalpesh Thaker wrote:
> I've tried looking online... most people have mentioned that kmail will
> only pull tz data off the OS. if thunderbird is doing that too, and
> doesnt have a problem.. then its a bit confusing. when you think about
> it, Lusaka Zambia use the exact same tz as us...so it could be incorrect
> tz data for Zimbabwe in the OS itself that kmail seems to pick up from
> somewhere.
>
> i'll try and do more research this evening to see if we can find anything
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 3:32 PM, O. Sinclair <o.sinclair at gmail.com
> <mailto:o.sinclair at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> To my knowledge KMail has no setting for timezone, I have asked on
> kdeforums/KDEPIM if anyone is aware of any "rc" (settings) file but
> not seen any reply.
>
> I am suspecting either a weird KMail bug or a faulty timezones
> "template" for Africa/Harare
>
>
>
> On 13/03/2013 10:39, Kalpesh Thaker wrote:
>
> Ahh, you are correct!
>
> "From: kt <kt at thejoker>
> To: kalpesh at webdevworld.com <mailto:kalpesh at webdevworld.com>
> <mailto:kalpesh at webdevworld.__com <mailto:kalpesh at webdevworld.com>>
>
> Subject: test
> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 10:31:18 +0204
> Message-ID: <2291584.5WqPz9Rkts at thejoker>
> X-KMail-Identity: 101880761
> User-Agent: KMail/4.8.5 (Linux/3.2.0-31-generic-pae; KDE/4.8.5;
> i686; ; )
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" "
>
> What really weird, is that im subscribed a few lists, like debian
> security and a few others. havent had any bounces yet.
>
> using thunderbird, i get:
>
> "From - Wed Mar 13 10:37:59 2013
>
> X-Mozilla-Status: 0001
> X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000
> X-Mozilla-Keys:
> Message-ID: <51403AE7.3020205 at webdevworld.__com
> <mailto:51403AE7.3020205 at webdevworld.com>
> <mailto:51403AE7.3020205 at __webdevworld.com
> <mailto:51403AE7.3020205 at webdevworld.com>>>
> Disposition-Notification-To: kalpesh thaker
> <kalpesh at webdevworld.com <mailto:kalpesh at webdevworld.com>
> <mailto:kalpesh at webdevworld.__com
> <mailto:kalpesh at webdevworld.com>>>
>
> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 10:37:59 +0200
> From: kalpesh thaker <kalpesh at webdevworld.com
> <mailto:kalpesh at webdevworld.com>
> <mailto:kalpesh at webdevworld.__com
> <mailto:kalpesh at webdevworld.com>>>
>
> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0)
> Gecko/20130221 Thunderbird/17.0.3
> MIME-Version: 1.0
> To:kalpesh at hosting.co.zw <mailto:To%3Akalpesh at hosting.co.zw>
> <mailto:kalpesh at hosting.co.zw <mailto:kalpesh at hosting.co.zw>>
>
> Subject: test
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit"
>
> im having a look to see if its possible to change that time zone
> manually in kmail.
>
> kalpesh
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 9:44 AM, O. Sinclair
> <o.sinclair at gmail.com <mailto:o.sinclair at gmail.com>
> <mailto:o.sinclair at gmail.com <mailto:o.sinclair at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>
> Hi Kalpesh,
>
> no this is not a host issue, I use different sending hosts
> depending
> on account and also then it would not change if I changed
> timezone.
>
> It is KMail (and other clients) that sets a Date field in the
> headers and that defaults to UTC +0200 or whatever offset
> to UTC you
> happen to be in. UTC +0204 is in other clearly wrong.
>
> Just to test I swapped again and the problem returned.
>
> If you are using KMail, open a sent mail, do View All
> Headers and
> look for the Date field and see what value you have, then
> we can
> compare.
>
> Best,
> Orion
>
>
> On 13/03/2013 08:55, Kalpesh Thaker wrote:
>
> Hi Orion,
>
> Im actually using kmail myself. im subscribed to quite
> a few forums
> online and havent had any issues when posting or
> replying to
> threads.
> confirm that in the headers, its your host that has the
> incorrect time,
> and not one of the relays from your ISP?
>
> Im noticing you're seeing UTC. your universal time should
> actually be 2
> hours behind.. so the correct date on your computer
> should be:
>
> Current default time zone: 'Africa/Harare'
> Local time is now: Wed Mar 13 08:53:47 CAT 2013.
> Universal Time is now: Wed Mar 13 06:53:47 UTC 2013.
>
> you can double check your time zone on your OS from the
> command
> line:
>
> "sudo date"
>
> then change/confirm your tz using:
>
> "sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata"
>
> once thats done, sync your clock:
>
> "sudo ntpdate pool.ntp.org <http://pool.ntp.org>
> <http://pool.ntp.org>
> <http://pool.ntp.org>" --> check that ntpdate
>
> is installed first.
>
> cheers,
>
> kalpesh
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 8:48 AM, O. Sinclair
> <o.sinclair at gmail.com <mailto:o.sinclair at gmail.com>
> <mailto:o.sinclair at gmail.com <mailto:o.sinclair at gmail.com>>
> <mailto:o.sinclair at gmail.com
> <mailto:o.sinclair at gmail.com> <mailto:o.sinclair at gmail.com
> <mailto:o.sinclair at gmail.com>>>__> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> am using Kubuntu 12.10 with all updates and such.
>
> A while ago I posted some issues on the kde-devel
> list that was
> initially rejected as spam. I had some discussions
> with the
> list
> administrator Ben Cooksley.
>
> He informed me that a major problem was that my
> sending
> headers were
> set to date as UTC +0204. As we in Harare are UTC
> +0200
> this meant
> all kinds of spamassasin and friends believed my
> mails to
> be some
> kind of bogey.
>
> You can see this in a sent mail by viewing All
> Headers and
> look for
> Date sent or similar.
>
> My question to fellow ubuntu-users with computers
> set to
> timezone
> Africa/Harare is of course:
> Am I the only one having this issue?
> Is it possibly a KMail issue or are
> Thunderbird/Evolution users
> seeing it as well?
>
> If it is "just me" I will have to figure out what
> is wrong
> with my
> setup (changing to Lusaka/Zambia fixed it btw).
> If it is KMail then I have to bug the devs
> If it is Ubuntu time to file a bug there
>
> Kind regards
> Sinclair
>
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