Morning Orion,<div> </div><div>Apologies.. due to a combination of no ZESA and the adsl POP being off in my area last.. i couldn't do much.</div><div>will look into it more today though..</div><div> </div><div>im thinking of trying out KDE and kmail on a debian stable release..as well as an older ubuntu LTS to see if we have the same issue...</div> <div> </div><div>kalpesh <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 6:53 AM, O. Sinclair <<a href="mailto:o.sinclair@gmail.com" target="_blank">o.sinclair@gmail.com</a>> wrote: <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Morning, did you find time and did you manage to find out anything else regarding this? I have the issue brought on kdepim users list and on kdeforums but so far nothing much to verify this as either KMail but or error in timezone data. Sinclair<div class="im"> On 13/03/2013 15:51, Kalpesh Thaker wrote: </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="im"> I've tried looking online... most people have mentioned that kmail will only pull tz data off the OS. if thunderbird is doing that too, and doesnt have a problem.. then its a bit confusing. when you think about it, Lusaka Zambia use the exact same tz as us...so it could be incorrect tz data for Zimbabwe in the OS itself that kmail seems to pick up from somewhere. i'll try and do more research this evening to see if we can find anything On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 3:32 PM, O. Sinclair <<a href="mailto:o.sinclair@gmail.com" target="_blank">o.sinclair@gmail.com</a> </div><div class="im"> <mailto:<a href="mailto:o.sinclair@gmail.com" target="_blank">o.sinclair@gmail.com</a>>> wrote: To my knowledge KMail has no setting for timezone, I have asked on kdeforums/KDEPIM if anyone is aware of any "rc" (settings) file but not seen any reply. I am suspecting either a weird KMail bug or a faulty timezones "template" for Africa/Harare On 13/03/2013 10:39, Kalpesh Thaker wrote: Ahh, you are correct! "From: kt <kt@thejoker> To: <a href="mailto:kalpesh@webdevworld.com" target="_blank">kalpesh@webdevworld.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:kalpesh@webdevworld.com" target="_blank">kalpesh@webdevworld.com</a>> </div> <mailto:<a href="mailto:kalpesh@webdevworld." target="_blank">kalpesh@webdevworld.</a>__com <mailto:<a href="mailto:kalpesh@webdevworld.com" target="_blank">kalpesh@webdevworld.com</a>>><div class="im"> Subject: test Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 10:31:18 +0204 Message-ID: <2291584.5WqPz9Rkts@thejoker> X-KMail-Identity: 101880761 User-Agent: KMail/4.8.5 (Linux/3.2.0-31-generic-pae; KDE/4.8.5; i686; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" " What really weird, is that im subscribed a few lists, like debian security and a few others. havent had any bounces yet. using thunderbird, i get: "From - Wed Mar 13 10:37:59 2013 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 X-Mozilla-Status2: 00800000 X-Mozilla-Keys: </div><div class="im"> Message-ID: <51403AE7.3020205@webdevworld.__com <mailto:<a href="mailto:51403AE7.3020205@webdevworld.com" target="_blank">51403AE7.3020205@webdevworld.com</a>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:51403AE7.3020205@" target="_blank">51403AE7.3020205@</a>__<a href="http://webdevworld.com" target="_blank">webdevworld.com</a> </div><div class="im"> <mailto:<a href="mailto:51403AE7.3020205@webdevworld.com" target="_blank">51403AE7.3020205@webdevworld.com</a>>>> Disposition-Notification-To: kalpesh thaker <<a href="mailto:kalpesh@webdevworld.com" target="_blank">kalpesh@webdevworld.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:kalpesh@webdevworld.com" target="_blank">kalpesh@webdevworld.com</a>> </div> <mailto:<a href="mailto:kalpesh@webdevworld." target="_blank">kalpesh@webdevworld.</a>__com<div class="im"> <mailto:<a href="mailto:kalpesh@webdevworld.com" target="_blank">kalpesh@webdevworld.com</a>>>> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 10:37:59 +0200 From: kalpesh thaker <<a href="mailto:kalpesh@webdevworld.com" target="_blank">kalpesh@webdevworld.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:kalpesh@webdevworld.com" target="_blank">kalpesh@webdevworld.com</a>> </div> <mailto:<a href="mailto:kalpesh@webdevworld." target="_blank">kalpesh@webdevworld.</a>__com<div class="im"> <mailto:<a href="mailto:kalpesh@webdevworld.com" target="_blank">kalpesh@webdevworld.com</a>>>> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130221 Thunderbird/17.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 </div> <a href="mailto:To%3Akalpesh@hosting.co.zw" target="_blank">To:kalpesh@hosting.co.zw</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:To%253Akalpesh@hosting.co.zw" target="_blank">To%3Akalpesh@hosting.co.zw</a>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:kalpesh@hosting.co.zw" target="_blank">kalpesh@hosting.co.zw</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:kalpesh@hosting.co.zw" target="_blank">kalpesh@hosting.co.zw</a>>><div class="im"> Subject: test Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit" im having a look to see if its possible to change that time zone manually in kmail. kalpesh On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 9:44 AM, O. Sinclair <<a href="mailto:o.sinclair@gmail.com" target="_blank">o.sinclair@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:o.sinclair@gmail.com" target="_blank">o.sinclair@gmail.com</a>> </div><div class="im"> <mailto:<a href="mailto:o.sinclair@gmail.com" target="_blank">o.sinclair@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:o.sinclair@gmail.com" target="_blank">o.sinclair@gmail.com</a>>>> wrote: </div><div><div class="h5"> Hi Kalpesh, no this is not a host issue, I use different sending hosts depending on account and also then it would not change if I changed timezone. It is KMail (and other clients) that sets a Date field in the headers and that defaults to UTC +0200 or whatever offset to UTC you happen to be in. UTC +0204 is in other clearly wrong. Just to test I swapped again and the problem returned. If you are using KMail, open a sent mail, do View All Headers and look for the Date field and see what value you have, then we can compare. Best, Orion On 13/03/2013 08:55, Kalpesh Thaker wrote: Hi Orion, Im actually using kmail myself. im subscribed to quite a few forums online and havent had any issues when posting or replying to threads. confirm that in the headers, its your host that has the incorrect time, and not one of the relays from your ISP? Im noticing you're seeing UTC. your universal time should actually be 2 hours behind.. so the correct date on your computer should be: Current default time zone: 'Africa/Harare' Local time is now: Wed Mar 13 08:53:47 CAT 2013. Universal Time is now: Wed Mar 13 06:53:47 UTC 2013. you can double check your time zone on your OS from the command line: "sudo date" then change/confirm your tz using: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata" once thats done, sync your clock: "sudo ntpdate <a href="http://pool.ntp.org" target="_blank">pool.ntp.org</a> <<a href="http://pool.ntp.org" target="_blank">http://pool.ntp.org</a>> <<a href="http://pool.ntp.org" target="_blank">http://pool.ntp.org</a>> <<a href="http://pool.ntp.org" target="_blank">http://pool.ntp.org</a>>" --> check that ntpdate is installed first. cheers, kalpesh On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 8:48 AM, O. 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He informed me that a major problem was that my sending headers were set to date as UTC +0204. As we in Harare are UTC +0200 this meant all kinds of spamassasin and friends believed my mails to be some kind of bogey. You can see this in a sent mail by viewing All Headers and look for Date sent or similar. My question to fellow ubuntu-users with computers set to timezone Africa/Harare is of course: Am I the only one having this issue? Is it possibly a KMail issue or are Thunderbird/Evolution users seeing it as well? If it is "just me" I will have to figure out what is wrong with my setup (changing to Lusaka/Zambia fixed it btw). 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