[ubuntu-za] ubuntu-za Digest, Vol 54, Issue 13
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: kdenlive sound fix wants to remove half my system
(David Robert Lewis (ethnopunk))
2. Logon screen problems (David Robert Lewis (ethnopunk))
3. Re: Logon screen problems (Robert Holm)
4. Re: Logon screen problems (David Robert Lewis (ethnopunk))
5. Re: Logon screen problems (Raoul Snyman)
6. Re: Logon screen problems (David Robert Lewis (ethnopunk))
7. Re: Logon screen problems (Wesley Werner)
8. Re: kdenlive sound fix wants to remove half my system
(Wesley Werner)
9. Re: Logon screen problems (David Robert Lewis (ethnopunk))
10. Re: Logon screen problems (David Robert Lewis (ethnopunk))
11. Re: Logon screen problems (David Robert Lewis (ethnopunk))
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 11:29:48 +0200
From: "David Robert Lewis (ethnopunk)" <ethnopunk at telkomsa.net>
Subject: Re: [ubuntu-za] kdenlive sound fix wants to remove half my
system
To: Ubuntu South African Local Community <ubuntu-za at lists.ubuntu.com>
Message-ID: <4B92208C.9030107 at telkomsa.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Wesley Werner wrote:
>
>
> Can anyone suggestion another way to install or an alternative
> workaround for the bug? I can't find any other video editor that
gives
> me what Kdenlive has, and Lives is still buggy.
>
> Regards
>
> David.
>
>
> Hi David, did you get sorted on this? I battled this a bit too, ended
> up editing the video without using the preview, the rendered video
> does have sound luckily.
>
> Have a look at this thread
>
<http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/apt-get-remove-and-de
pendencies-183772/>,
> seems like you can force a remove and ignore dependencies, Ill see
> what other info is around...
>
> Regards, Wez
Hi Wez,
Thanks for the information. Thought I was the only one. Glad to know it
not just me. Will take a look at the thread. yay.
David.
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 11:39:35 +0200
From: "David Robert Lewis (ethnopunk)" <ethnopunk at telkomsa.net>
Subject: [ubuntu-za] Logon screen problems
To: Ubuntu South African Local Community <ubuntu-za at lists.ubuntu.com>
Message-ID: <4B9222D7.5040700 at telkomsa.net>
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Hi all,
Well, you know how it is with Ubuntu, installed some apps last night,
then was trying to make Virtualbox start as a session, and next thing,
I've got a problem with my login.
Login just freezes. I can start up in recovery mode and get in with
startx.
If I try to start system > admin > login screen it takes a while to
start, and then refuses to unlock.
This could be because I installed login screen 2, which I've now
removed. [I also installed byobu, but don't think this is the problem
because it only runs if I tell it to run. Uninstalled just to be safe.]
So culprit definitely login screen 2, or something to do with my trying
to execute vboxmanage from login.
Now trying to figure out how to restore my login.
Does anybody know how to start login screen in terminal?
Any ideas appreciated.
DRL
PS: Check out my Ubuntu Aubergine Dip recipe in honour of the new
branding at http://indlovu.wordpress.com
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 12:14:32 +0200
From: Robert Holm <robhholm at lantic.net>
Subject: Re: [ubuntu-za] Logon screen problems
To: ubuntu-za at lists.ubuntu.com
Message-ID: <4B922B08.50507 at lantic.net>
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On 06/03/2010 11:39, David Robert Lewis (ethnopunk) wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Well, you know how it is with Ubuntu, installed some apps last night,
> then was trying to make Virtualbox start as a session, and next thing,
> I've got a problem with my login.
>
> Login just freezes. I can start up in recovery mode and get in with
startx.
>
> If I try to start system> admin> login screen it takes a while to
> start, and then refuses to unlock.
>
> This could be because I installed login screen 2, which I've now
> removed. [I also installed byobu, but don't think this is the problem
> because it only runs if I tell it to run. Uninstalled just to be
safe.]
It may sound like a hassle, but before I do any upgrades or new
installations I always backup the partition using fsbackup on the
SystemResueCD. Only takes about 10-15 minutes, and reverting to the
original state is a trivial operation. I know that in this case it is
closing the stable door ...., but there will be other horses.
> So culprit definitely login screen 2, or something to do with my
trying
> to execute vboxmanage from login.
>
> Now trying to figure out how to restore my login.
>
> Does anybody know how to start login screen in terminal?
>
> Any ideas appreciated.
>
> DRL
>
>
>
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 12:42:07 +0200
From: "David Robert Lewis (ethnopunk)" <ethnopunk at telkomsa.net>
Subject: Re: [ubuntu-za] Logon screen problems
To: Ubuntu South African Local Community <ubuntu-za at lists.ubuntu.com>
Message-ID: <4B92317F.4040104 at telkomsa.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Robert Holm wrote:
> On 06/03/2010 11:39, David Robert Lewis (ethnopunk) wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Well, you know how it is with Ubuntu, installed some apps last night,
>> then was trying to make Virtualbox start as a session, and next
thing,
>> I've got a problem with my login.
>>
>> Login just freezes. I can start up in recovery mode and get in with
startx.
>>
>> If I try to start system> admin> login screen it takes a while to
>> start, and then refuses to unlock.
>>
>> This could be because I installed login screen 2, which I've now
>> removed. [I also installed byobu, but don't think this is the problem
>> because it only runs if I tell it to run. Uninstalled just to be
safe.]
>>
> It may sound like a hassle, but before I do any upgrades or new
> installations I always backup the partition using fsbackup on the
> SystemResueCD. Only takes about 10-15 minutes, and reverting to the
> original state is a trivial operation. I know that in this case it is
> closing the stable door ...., but there will be other horses.
>
>
>> So culprit definitely login screen 2, or something to do with my
trying
>> to execute vboxmanage from login.
>>
>> Now trying to figure out how to restore my login.
>>
>> Does anybody know how to start login screen in terminal?
>>
>> Any ideas appreciated.
>>
>> DRL
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
I have Back in Time installed, but this only for a catastrophic failure.
Guess I should sticky it and do a backup before I upgrade anything.
I actually did check to see if login screen 2 recommended for karmic and
it was, but obviously there was some conflict somewhere.
These things tend to happen the closer one gets to the next release. So
the advice coming out is always backwards compatible and people just
assume they can offer up another tweak. I probably should have backed up
the login settings completely.
Bad advice taken on a Friday evening, which is usually when this kind
of thing happens.
Probably was a Serbian giving out Ubuntu Linux advice on a blog
somewhere in Russia.
Yes, horse is out of the stable but have been in worse situations.
Regards
David
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 13:35:59 +0200
From: Raoul Snyman <raoul.snyman at saturnlaboratories.co.za>
Subject: Re: [ubuntu-za] Logon screen problems
To: Ubuntu South African Local Community <ubuntu-za at lists.ubuntu.com>
Message-ID: <201003061335.59638.raoul.snyman at saturnlaboratories.co.za>
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On Saturday 06 March 2010 11:39:35 David Robert Lewis (ethnopunk) wrote:
> So culprit definitely login screen 2, or something to do with my
trying
> to execute vboxmanage from login.
Um, I'm confused here... what's this "login screen 2" you're talking
about?
--
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Saturn Laboratories
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 18:15:28 +0200
From: "David Robert Lewis (ethnopunk)" <ethnopunk at telkomsa.net>
Subject: Re: [ubuntu-za] Logon screen problems
To: Ubuntu South African Local Community <ubuntu-za at lists.ubuntu.com>
Message-ID: <4B927FA0.1020207 at telkomsa.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Raoul Snyman wrote:
> On Saturday 06 March 2010 11:39:35 David Robert Lewis (ethnopunk)
wrote:
>
>> So culprit definitely login screen 2, or something to do with my
trying
>> to execute vboxmanage from login.
>>
>
> Um, I'm confused here... what's this "login screen 2" you're talking
about?
>
>
GDM, at least I think its GDM since so many things got deprecated in
Karmic.
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 18:58:08 +0200
From: Wesley Werner <wesley.werner at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [ubuntu-za] Logon screen problems
To: Ubuntu South African Local Community <ubuntu-za at lists.ubuntu.com>
Message-ID:
<ec1415db1003060858i379fccafg51f4fd7b4b8de9c0 at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> Now trying to figure out how to restore my login.
>
> Does anybody know how to start login screen in terminal?
>
> Any ideas appreciated.
>
> DRL
>
>
You can try reconfigure login, I think it's the gdm package for Gnome
(correct me if I'm wrong?)
sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 19:29:02 +0200
From: Wesley Werner <wesley.werner at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [ubuntu-za] kdenlive sound fix wants to remove half my
system
To: Ubuntu South African Local Community <ubuntu-za at lists.ubuntu.com>
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> > Have a look at this thread
> > <
>
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/debian-26/apt-get-remove-and-dep
endencies-183772/
> >,
> > seems like you can force a remove and ignore dependencies, Ill see
> > what other info is around...
> >
> > Regards, Wez
>
> Hi Wez,
>
> Thanks for the information. Thought I was the only one. Glad to know
it
> not just me. Will take a look at the thread. yay.
>
> David.
>
>
Digging deeper, I found the thread suggests commands that were
obsoleted,
and not so sure they exist anymore :/
I did find that dpkg has some force options, basically it turns
dependency
checks into warnings, so in theory they should not be processed. man
dpkg
and search 'force-things'.
dpkg --force-help also gives the manpage summary of the force options,
it
seems like a pretty vast section of package manager, i havent tried any
of
them just yet.
dpkg also has a --simulate option which could be useful here ;)
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 20:56:17 +0200
From: "David Robert Lewis (ethnopunk)" <ethnopunk at telkomsa.net>
Subject: Re: [ubuntu-za] Logon screen problems
To: Ubuntu South African Local Community <ubuntu-za at lists.ubuntu.com>
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Wesley Werner wrote:
>
>
> Now trying to figure out how to restore my login.
>
> Does anybody know how to start login screen in terminal?
>
> Any ideas appreciated.
>
> DRL
>
>
> You can try reconfigure login, I think it's the gdm package for Gnome
> (correct me if I'm wrong?)
>
> sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
>
Tried but no luck. A step in right direction. Thanks.
David.
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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 2010 21:06:23 +0200
From: "David Robert Lewis (ethnopunk)" <ethnopunk at telkomsa.net>
Subject: Re: [ubuntu-za] Logon screen problems
To: Ubuntu South African Local Community <ubuntu-za at lists.ubuntu.com>
Message-ID: <4B92A7AF.7020607 at telkomsa.net>
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Wesley Werner wrote:
>
>
> Now trying to figure out how to restore my login.
>
> Does anybody know how to start login screen in terminal?
>
> Any ideas appreciated.
>
> DRL
>
>
> You can try reconfigure login, I think it's the gdm package for Gnome
> (correct me if I'm wrong?)
>
> sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
>
I think it's got something to do with this posting:
http://www.techsupportforum.com/alternative-computing/linux-support/4288
56-solved-ubuntu-freezes-after-login-normal-mode-but-not-recovery-mode-g
nome.html
Either runlevel problem, or
bug either in usplash, i e need to turn off usplash. Will let you know
when I have more time to debug.
David
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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 07 Mar 2010 00:36:27 +0200
From: "David Robert Lewis (ethnopunk)" <ethnopunk at telkomsa.net>
Subject: Re: [ubuntu-za] Logon screen problems
To: Ubuntu South African Local Community <ubuntu-za at lists.ubuntu.com>
Message-ID: <4B92D8EB.1090401 at telkomsa.net>
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David Robert Lewis (ethnopunk) wrote:
> Wesley Werner wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Now trying to figure out how to restore my login.
>>
>> Does anybody know how to start login screen in terminal?
>>
>> Any ideas appreciated.
>>
>> DRL
>>
>>
>> You can try reconfigure login, I think it's the gdm package for Gnome
>> (correct me if I'm wrong?)
>>
>> sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
>>
>>
>
> I think it's got something to do with this posting:
>
http://www.techsupportforum.com/alternative-computing/linux-support/4288
56-solved-ubuntu-freezes-after-login-normal-mode-but-not-recovery-mode-g
nome.html
>
> Either runlevel problem, or
> bug either in usplash, i e need to turn off usplash. Will let you know
> when I have more time to debug.
>
> David
>
>
Okay, I think I've figured this one out. It was a corrupted gdm.conf
file.
I downgraded to gdm-2.0
http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-downgrade-gnome-display-manager-2-28-to
-2-20-in-ubuntu-9-10-karmic.html
I can now login normally but get a warning message "invalid number of
arguments falling back to default session" when I login. Session happens
as per normal. Only hassle is the Jaunty login screen which I always
hated. Now I am going to try and upgrade again. Wish Back in Time had a
better interface for selecting exactly which part of the system needs to
be recovered, because I am sure there is an easier way to avoid this in
the first place. Never a dull day in Ubuntuland, that's for sure.
DRL
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