[UbuntuWomen] Old Wiki and Current Website

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On 7/1/06, Elizabeth Krumbach <lyz at princessleia.com> wrote:
> While I was going through the content on our old wiki and old website I
> realized I'm not quite sure what our vision of the new wiki is.

Do you have any ideas for that ?

>
> The old wiki had a great deal more information that I believe should be on our
> static HTML page.

Please provide samples of what you would like to add there.


> Was this not moved over just because the admins haven't had
> time? Or we haven't been sure what our vision is?

The old wiki pages were (are) there and its not too difficult to
rewrite the content but after this announcement[1] , although many
women volunteered, none came back with a design mockup or anything
else.  I didnt see any mails on the list which said "Hey here is my
design/ content/ etc... What do you think ?".

So after 2 weeks of waiting, instead of complaining, I created the
existing design, rewrote and trimmed the contents for relevance, kept
the Html page standards compliant and used the current logo from
Lizzeh.

If anyone has any content to add, feel free to submit them here. It
will also be nicer if its verified and is standards compliant for
HTML. Otherwise the wiki still exists so please port data there and
send a mail to the list about that. No problem.

[1] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-women/2006-March/000120.html



> I'd be willing to help out with both the site and wiki as an administrator, I
> have a lot of time this weekend to help out.

It will be more than just a weekend ;-) and we are happy to have you
on board if you can make that long-term commitment.


> We need to decide whether the following sections from the old Wiki should be
> moved to the static page or the new wiki:
>
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWomen/Translators
>
> Clytie - you seem to be the leader on this bit of the project, I don't know
> much about translations. Do you think we should have a static page talking
> about translations and then a wiki page with information that changes more
> often like members of the translation team?
>
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWomen/Volunteers

All the current volunteers are listed here,
http://www.ubuntu-women.org/faq.html
If your name is missing please holler and we will add you. Sorry :)


> I think this should stay on the wiki, but perhaps be altered. Rather than a
> volunteers page maybe we have a Members page that people can put their
> information on and as a side note explain how they contribute, if at all, to
> the project?

That will be nice, would you like to follow up and ping the people
concerened for that.

At this point I must say that Ubuntu generally uses the wiki
extensively as a tool and
both Robin and Henrik thought that its easier for people to contribute
and reduces redundancy which is a huge problem with static webpages.
Most member profiles on the main wiki in Ubuntu are constantly
changing. This is difficult with a static page as they will have to
request the volunteer maintaining the static page which is avoidable
work for any volunteer.  A wiki is more inclusive of newcomers which
is what the spirit of Ubuntu is all about and I agree with this.



> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWomen/Mentors
>
> This is being discussed in another thread, will probably go static.
>
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWomen/Ideas
>
> I've sort of moved some of the content over to the new wiki. Not sure if any of
> the ideas on the old wiki are still valid though.

Could you provide links if you have moved them. I could not find it.



> There were some links on the main UbuntuWomen wiki to other -women projects,
> should we add a Links page to the new Wiki or static page?
>
> And the UbuntuWomen Forums still exist (and are quite active) over on
> ubuntuforums.org - was it determined whether we are the same group?

Bill Weber, aka KingBahamut from the Forums is also the IRC admin for
#ubuntu-women. Do we need more proof or has there been a change in
this ?
Some people like the forums or IRC or lists or a combination of
everything. Its their choice after all.

If you mean about Ubuntu-Women being listed as a 3rd Party Ubuntu
Projects on the Ubuntu Forums, then this was taken up with them and
Bill and Ryan Troy were going to take care of it. But this was in
April and it will be nice if someone more active from the forums will
follow-up on this.


> Should we link the Forum to our website?

It was always linked. See, http://www.ubuntu-women.org/getinv.html
However, ubuntu-women.org is not yet linked on the Forums (to the best
of my knowledge ;-))


> Finally, I wonder if the old wiki should be removed when we have moved over all
> the information to the new site? I think it's confusing to have both the old

The general policy followed in Ubuntu is to not delete content
suddenly from the main wiki, which can be confusing to people. Its
easier to include a note with a link to the new website.


> And as a small side note, the current page has a menu item called "FAQ's" - it
> should be "FAQ" (FAQ stands for Frequently Asked Questions - Frequently Asked
> Questions's doesn't make sense ;))

thanks, will change it.  For stuff like this anyone can file a bug
using Launchpad.

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