[l-ubuntu-ve] Ayuda con tarjeta TNT2
Ricardo C. Fernández de C.
koshrf en gmail.com
Mar Oct 12 20:16:08 BST 2010
Saludos,
El día 12 de octubre de 2010 15:09, Robert Rondon <rrondonc en gmail.com> escribió:
> Yo creo que el problema surge después de actualizar el kernel a
> 2.6.32-25. Porque el funcionaba bien con el kernel anterior. y la
> versión era la 10.04. Sin embargo el equipo funciona en modo de
> recuperación con modo gráfico seguro. Hay una posibilidad de
> configurarlo y siempre use esta forma de iniciar?
>
Si actualizaste de kernel entonces deberías tener el otro kernel en tu
grub, bootea con el kernel anterior.
De verdad yo no tengo la menor idea como funcionabas con el driver de
nvidia (si es que funcionaba así), pero el driver de nvidia tiene unos
cuantos años que no soporta esas tarjetas.
> Se que es algo poco común, pero es una solución para mantener la
> operatividad del equipo.
>
> Saludos
>
>
>
> El mar, 12-10-2010 a las 13:23 -0430, Ricardo C. Fernández de C.
> escribió:
>> El día 12 de octubre de 2010 13:19, Ricardo C. Fernández de C.
>> <koshrf en gmail.com> escribió:
>> > Saludos,
>> >
>> >
>> > 2010/10/12 Robert Rondon <rrondonc en gmail.com>:
>> >> Amigos de la lista!
>> >>
>> >> Alguna sugerencia, con este tema. Si cambio el sistema a 10.10. Me dara
>> >> el mismo error, es decir, se quedara colgado el monitor, por no tener
>> >> bien configurados los drivers.
>> >>
>> >
>>
>> Tan solo para estar claros en algo,
>>
>> tu actualizaste desde que versión a que versión? por que leyendo un
>> poco estas tarjetas no están soportadas en ubuntu (ni en ninguna
>> distribución nueva que yo conozca) desde antes de 8.04
>>
>> Hiciste una actualización de LTS? de 8.04 a 10.04 se perdio ese
>> soporte que yo sepa (soporte en el driver).
>>
>>
>> > Que yo tenga entendido los nuevos drivers de Nvidia no soportan las
>> > tarjetas TNT, solo desde gforce para arriba y lo mismo te va a pasar
>> > con los drivers de nouveau. El driver "nv" tenía un soporte primitivo
>> > a estas tarjetas.
>> >
>> > No creo que puedas usar 10.10 por que ya vienen con los nuevos drivers
>> > y esa tarjeta creo que no está soportada.
>> >
>> > Estas hablando de una tarjeta que tiene mas de 12 años, vas a tener
>> > que usar versiones viejas de cosas.
>> >
>> >> Escucho aportes, todos son bien recibidas
>> >>
>> >> Saludos!
>> >>
>> >> El jue, 07-10-2010 a las 17:05 -0430, Robert Rondon escribió:
>> >>> Te muestro el contenido:
>> >>>
>> >>> ramon en ramon-desktop:~$ cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
>> >>> Section "Device"
>> >>> Identifier "Configured Video Device"
>> >>> Driver "nvidia"
>> >>> EndSection
>> >>>
>> >>> Section "Monitor"
>> >>> Identifier "Configured Monitor"
>> >>> EndSection
>> >>>
>> >>> Section "Screen"
>> >>> Identifier "Default Screen"
>> >>> Monitor "Configured Monitor"
>> >>> Device "Configured Video Device"
>> >>> EndSection
>> >>> Section "Module"
>> >>> Load "glx"
>> >>> EndSection
>> >>> ramon en ramon-desktop:~$
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> El jue, 07-10-2010 a las 15:44 -0430, Rolando Blanco escribió:
>> >>> > Por favor muestrame el contenido del archivo xorg.conf con el comando:
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
>> >>> >
>> >>> > Te adelanto, que el Log dice que no es posible cargar el modulo del xorg
>> >>> > para nvidia, pero vamos a ver que tienes en el xorg
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> >
>> >>> > On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 4:08 PM, Robert Rondon <rrondonc en gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>> >
>> >>> > > Estoy trabajando en recovery mode en modo grafico seguro que es donde
>> >>> > > puedo ver el escritorio.
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > Aqui esta el resultado de los comandos:
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > ramon en ramon-desktop:~$ lspci -vvvn
>> >>> > > 00:00.0 0600: 8086:1a30 (rev 03)
>> >>> > > Subsystem: 8086:1a30
>> >>> > > Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr-
>> >>> > > Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
>> >>> > > Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort-
>> >>> > > <TAbort-
>> >>> > > <MAbort+ >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
>> >>> > > Latency: 0
>> >>> > > Region 0: Memory at e0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=64M]
>> >>> > > Capabilities: <access denied>
>> >>> > > Kernel driver in use: agpgart-intel
>> >>> > > Kernel modules: intel-agp
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > 00:01.0 0604: 8086:1a31 (rev 03)
>> >>> > > Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr-
>> >>> > > Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- DisINTx-
>> >>> > > Status: Cap- 66MHz+ UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort-
>> >>> > > <TAbort-
>> >>> > > <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
>> >>> > > Latency: 64
>> >>> > > Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=01, sec-latency=32
>> >>> > > I/O behind bridge: 0000f000-00000fff
>> >>> > > Memory behind bridge: e6000000-e7ffffff
>> >>> > > Prefetchable memory behind bridge: e4000000-e5ffffff
>> >>> > > Secondary status: 66MHz+ FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort-
>> >>> > > <TAbort- <MAbort+ <SERR- <PERR-
>> >>> > > BridgeCtl: Parity- SERR+ NoISA+ VGA+ MAbort- >Reset- FastB2B-
>> >>> > > PriDiscTmr- SecDiscTmr- DiscTmrStat- DiscTmrSERREn-
>> >>> > > Kernel modules: shpchp
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > 00:1e.0 0604: 8086:244e (rev 12)
>> >>> > > Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr-
>> >>> > > Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- DisINTx-
>> >>> > > Status: Cap- 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort-
>> >>> > > <TAbort-
>> >>> > > <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
>> >>> > > Latency: 0
>> >>> > > Bus: primary=00, secondary=02, subordinate=02, sec-latency=32
>> >>> > > I/O behind bridge: 0000c000-0000cfff
>> >>> > > Memory behind bridge: e8000000-e9ffffff
>> >>> > > Prefetchable memory behind bridge: 50000000-500fffff
>> >>> > > Secondary status: 66MHz- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort-
>> >>> > > <TAbort- <MAbort- <SERR- <PERR+
>> >>> > > BridgeCtl: Parity- SERR+ NoISA+ VGA- MAbort- >Reset- FastB2B-
>> >>> > > PriDiscTmr- SecDiscTmr- DiscTmrStat- DiscTmrSERREn-
>> >>> > > Kernel modules: shpchp
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > 00:1f.0 0601: 8086:2440 (rev 12)
>> >>> > > Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle+ MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr-
>> >>> > > Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
>> >>> > > Status: Cap- 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort-
>> >>> > > <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR+ INTx-
>> >>> > > Latency: 0
>> >>> > > Kernel modules: iTCO_wdt, intel-rng
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > 00:1f.1 0101: 8086:244b (rev 12) (prog-if 80 [Master])
>> >>> > > Subsystem: 8086:2442
>> >>> > > Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr-
>> >>> > > Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
>> >>> > > Status: Cap- 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort-
>> >>> > > <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
>> >>> > > Latency: 0
>> >>> > > Region 0: [virtual] Memory at 000001f0 (32-bit, non-prefetchable)
>> >>> > > [disabled] [size=8]
>> >>> > > Region 1: [virtual] Memory at 000003f0 (type 3, non-prefetchable)
>> >>> > > [disabled] [size=1]
>> >>> > > Region 2: [virtual] Memory at 00000170 (32-bit, non-prefetchable)
>> >>> > > [disabled] [size=8]
>> >>> > > Region 3: [virtual] Memory at 00000370 (type 3, non-prefetchable)
>> >>> > > [disabled] [size=1]
>> >>> > > Region 4: I/O ports at f000 [size=16]
>> >>> > > Kernel driver in use: ata_piix
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > 00:1f.2 0c03: 8086:2442 (rev 12)
>> >>> > > Subsystem: 8086:2442
>> >>> > > Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr-
>> >>> > > Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
>> >>> > > Status: Cap- 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort-
>> >>> > > <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
>> >>> > > Latency: 0
>> >>> > > Interrupt: pin D routed to IRQ 11
>> >>> > > Region 4: I/O ports at d000 [size=32]
>> >>> > > Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > 00:1f.3 0c05: 8086:2443 (rev 12)
>> >>> > > Subsystem: 8086:2442
>> >>> > > Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster- SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr-
>> >>> > > Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
>> >>> > > Status: Cap- 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort-
>> >>> > > <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
>> >>> > > Interrupt: pin B routed to IRQ 5
>> >>> > > Region 4: I/O ports at 0500 [size=16]
>> >>> > > Kernel modules: i2c-i801
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > 00:1f.4 0c03: 8086:2444 (rev 12)
>> >>> > > Subsystem: 8086:2442
>> >>> > > Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr-
>> >>> > > Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
>> >>> > > Status: Cap- 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort-
>> >>> > > <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
>> >>> > > Latency: 0
>> >>> > > Interrupt: pin C routed to IRQ 9
>> >>> > > Region 4: I/O ports at d800 [size=32]
>> >>> > > Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > 00:1f.5 0401: 8086:2445 (rev 12)
>> >>> > > Subsystem: 414c:4710
>> >>> > > Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr-
>> >>> > > Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
>> >>> > > Status: Cap- 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort-
>> >>> > > <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
>> >>> > > Latency: 0
>> >>> > > Interrupt: pin B routed to IRQ 5
>> >>> > > Region 0: I/O ports at dc00 [size=256]
>> >>> > > Region 1: I/O ports at e000 [size=64]
>> >>> > > Kernel driver in use: Intel ICH
>> >>> > > Kernel modules: snd-intel8x0
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > 01:00.0 0300: 10de:002d (rev 15)
>> >>> > > Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr-
>> >>> > > Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
>> >>> > > Status: Cap+ 66MHz+ UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort-
>> >>> > > <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
>> >>> > > Latency: 32 (1250ns min, 250ns max)
>> >>> > > Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 10
>> >>> > > Region 0: Memory at e6000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]
>> >>> > > Region 1: Memory at e4000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=32M]
>> >>> > > [virtual] Expansion ROM at e7000000 [disabled] [size=64K]
>> >>> > > Capabilities: <access denied>
>> >>> > > Kernel driver in use: nouveau
>> >>> > > Kernel modules: nvidiafb, rivafb, nouveau
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > 02:0a.0 0200: 13f0:0200 (rev 31)
>> >>> > > Subsystem: 13f0:0201
>> >>> > > Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr-
>> >>> > > Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
>> >>> > > Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort+
>> >>> > > <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
>> >>> > > Latency: 32 (2500ns min, 2500ns max), Cache Line Size: 32 bytes
>> >>> > > Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 11
>> >>> > > Region 0: I/O ports at c000 [size=128]
>> >>> > > Region 1: Memory at e9000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=512]
>> >>> > > [virtual] Expansion ROM at 50000000 [disabled] [size=64K]
>> >>> > > Capabilities: <access denied>
>> >>> > > Kernel driver in use: sundance
>> >>> > > Kernel modules: sundance
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > ramon en ramon-desktop:~$ ls -C video
>> >>> > > ls: no se puede acceder a video: No existe el archivo o directorio
>> >>> > > ramon en ramon-desktop:~$ lshw -C video
>> >>> > > WARNING: you should run this program as super-user.
>> >>> > > *-display
>> >>> > > description: VGA compatible controller
>> >>> > > product: NV5M64 [RIVA TNT2 Model 64/Model 64 Pro]
>> >>> > > vendor: nVidia Corporation
>> >>> > > physical id: 0
>> >>> > > bus info: pci en 0000:01:00.0
>> >>> > > version: 15
>> >>> > > width: 32 bits
>> >>> > > clock: 66MHz
>> >>> > > capabilities: bus_master cap_list rom
>> >>> > > configuration: driver=nouveau latency=32 maxlatency=1 mingnt=5
>> >>> > > resources: irq:10 memory:e6000000-e6ffffff
>> >>> > > memory:e4000000-e5ffffff(prefetchable)
>> >>> > > memory:e7000000-e700ffff(prefetchable)
>> >>> > > ramon en ramon-desktop:~$
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > ramon en ramon-desktop:~$ lsmod
>> >>> > > Module Size Used by
>> >>> > > nls_iso8859_1 3249 1
>> >>> > > nls_cp437 4919 1
>> >>> > > vfat 8933 1
>> >>> > > fat 47767 1 vfat
>> >>> > > fbcon 35102 71
>> >>> > > tileblit 2031 1 fbcon
>> >>> > > font 7557 1 fbcon
>> >>> > > bitblit 4707 1 fbcon
>> >>> > > softcursor 1189 1 bitblit
>> >>> > > vga16fb 11385 0
>> >>> > > vgastate 8961 1 vga16fb
>> >>> > > snd_intel8x0 25588 2
>> >>> > > snd_ac97_codec 100646 1 snd_intel8x0
>> >>> > > ac97_bus 1002 1 snd_ac97_codec
>> >>> > > snd_pcm_oss 35308 0
>> >>> > > snd_mixer_oss 13746 1 snd_pcm_oss
>> >>> > > snd_pcm 70694 3 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss
>> >>> > > snd_seq_dummy 1338 0
>> >>> > > snd_seq_oss 26726 0
>> >>> > > snd_seq_midi 4557 0
>> >>> > > snd_rawmidi 19056 1 snd_seq_midi
>> >>> > > snd_seq_midi_event 6003 2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi
>> >>> > > snd_seq 47263 6
>> >>> > > snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event
>> >>> > > nouveau 467048 3
>> >>> > > snd_timer 19098 2 snd_pcm,snd_seq
>> >>> > > ttm 49943 1 nouveau
>> >>> > > snd_seq_device 5700 5
>> >>> > > snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq
>> >>> > > drm_kms_helper 29297 1 nouveau
>> >>> > > snd 54148 14
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_seq_oss,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device
>> >>> > > ppdev 5259 0
>> >>> > > drm 162409 3 nouveau,ttm,drm_kms_helper
>> >>> > > ns558 3056 0
>> >>> > > soundcore 6620 1 snd
>> >>> > > i2c_algo_bit 5028 1 nouveau
>> >>> > > psmouse 63245 0
>> >>> > > intel_agp 24119 1
>> >>> > > lp 7060 0
>> >>> > > parport_pc 25962 1
>> >>> > > snd_page_alloc 7076 2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm
>> >>> > > serio_raw 3978 0
>> >>> > > gameport 9089 2 ns558
>> >>> > > shpchp 28820 0
>> >>> > > agpgart 31724 3 ttm,drm,intel_agp
>> >>> > > parport 32635 3 ppdev,lp,parport_pc
>> >>> > > usb_storage 39553 1
>> >>> > > sundance 16670 0
>> >>> > > mii 4381 1 sundance
>> >>> > > floppy 53016 0
>> >>> > > ramon en ramon-desktop:~$
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > ramon en ramon-desktop:~$ sudo cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE
>> >>> > > [sudo] password for ramon:
>> >>> > > (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
>> >>> > > (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
>> >>> > > (EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0)
>> >>> > > (EE) No drivers available.
>> >>> > > ramon en ramon-desktop:~$
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > >
>> >>> > > El jue, 07-10-2010 a las 15:10 -0430, Rolando Blanco escribió:
>> >>> > > > Coloca acá el resultado de los comandos:
>> >>> > > >
>> >>> > > > lspci -vvvn
>> >>> > > >
>> >>> > > > lshw -C video
>> >>> > > >
>> >>> > > > lsmod
>> >>> > > >
>> >>> > > > y
>> >>> > > >
>> >>> > > > sudo cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE
>> >>> > > >
>> >>> > > > Gracias de antemano,
>> >>> > > >
>> >>> > > > Saludos
>> >>> > > >
>> >>> > > > 2010/10/7 Robert Rondon <rrondonc en gmail.com>
>> >>> > > >
>> >>> > > > > Buenas, despues de ver la explicaciones a <elwuilmer M atrevo a
>> >>> > > > > preguntar tambien Tengo instala ubuntu en una maquina con una tarjeta
>> >>> > > de
>> >>> > > > > video tnt2 riva 64 pro. (es viejita). Funcionaba bien hasta realizar
>> >>> > > las
>> >>> > > > > ultimas actualizaciones disponibles en Ubuntu. Incluso se actualizó el
>> >>> > > > > kernel a 2.6.32.25
>> >>> > > > >
>> >>> > > > > Alguna ayuda
>> >>> > > > >
>> >>> > > > > Saludos
>> >>> > > > >
>> >>> > > > > --
>> >>> > > > > Robert Rondón
>> >>> > > > > email:rrondonc en gmail.com <email%3Arrondonc en gmail.com> <
>> >>> > > email%3Arrondonc en gmail.com <email%253Arrondonc en gmail.com>>
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>> > Ricardo C. Fernández de C.
>> > Caracas - Venezuela
>> > http://koshrf.fercusoft.com/
>> > http://www.neotechgw.com/
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