[l-ubuntu-ve] Ayuda con tarjeta TNT2

robert rondon rrondonc en gmail.com
Mie Oct 13 12:55:49 BST 2010


Buenos Días, ese equipo lo actualice con el 10.10. Me seguía dando el
mismo error y lo que hice fue desinstalar todos los drivers de vídeo,
tanto de nvidia como los otros por defectos(no me se los nombres). Y
quedo operativo.

Saludos a todos y gracias!



El mar, 12-10-2010 a las 14:46 -0430, Ricardo C. Fernández de C.
escribió:

> Saludos,
> 
> El día 12 de octubre de 2010 15:09, Robert Rondon <rrondonc en gmail.com> escribió:
> > Yo creo que el problema surge después de actualizar el kernel a
> > 2.6.32-25. Porque el funcionaba bien con el kernel anterior. y la
> > versión era la 10.04. Sin embargo el equipo funciona en modo de
> > recuperación con  modo gráfico seguro. Hay una posibilidad de
> > configurarlo y siempre use esta forma de iniciar?
> >
> 
> Si actualizaste de kernel entonces deberías tener el otro kernel en tu
> grub, bootea con el kernel anterior.
> 
> De verdad yo no tengo la menor idea como funcionabas con el driver de
> nvidia (si es que funcionaba así), pero el driver de nvidia tiene unos
> cuantos años que no soporta esas tarjetas.
> 
> > Se que es algo poco común, pero es una solución para mantener la
> > operatividad del equipo.
> >
> > Saludos
> >
> >
> >
> > El mar, 12-10-2010 a las 13:23 -0430, Ricardo C. Fernández de C.
> > escribió:
> >> El día 12 de octubre de 2010 13:19, Ricardo C. Fernández de C.
> >> <koshrf en gmail.com> escribió:
> >> > Saludos,
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > 2010/10/12 Robert Rondon <rrondonc en gmail.com>:
> >> >> Amigos de la lista!
> >> >>
> >> >> Alguna sugerencia, con este tema. Si cambio el sistema a 10.10. Me dara
> >> >> el mismo error, es decir, se quedara colgado el monitor, por no tener
> >> >> bien configurados los drivers.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >>
> >> Tan solo para estar claros en algo,
> >>
> >> tu actualizaste desde que versión a que versión? por que leyendo un
> >> poco estas tarjetas no están soportadas en ubuntu (ni en ninguna
> >> distribución nueva que yo conozca) desde antes de 8.04
> >>
> >> Hiciste una actualización de LTS? de 8.04 a 10.04 se perdio ese
> >> soporte que yo sepa (soporte en el driver).
> >>
> >>
> >> > Que yo tenga entendido los nuevos drivers de Nvidia no soportan las
> >> > tarjetas TNT, solo desde gforce para arriba y lo mismo te va a pasar
> >> > con los drivers de nouveau. El driver "nv" tenía un soporte primitivo
> >> > a estas tarjetas.
> >> >
> >> > No creo que puedas usar 10.10 por que ya vienen con los nuevos drivers
> >> > y esa tarjeta creo que no está soportada.
> >> >
> >> > Estas hablando de una tarjeta que tiene mas de 12 años, vas a tener
> >> > que usar versiones viejas de cosas.
> >> >
> >> >> Escucho aportes, todos son bien recibidas
> >> >>
> >> >> Saludos!
> >> >>
> >> >> El jue, 07-10-2010 a las 17:05 -0430, Robert Rondon escribió:
> >> >>> Te muestro el contenido:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> ramon en ramon-desktop:~$ cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
> >> >>> Section "Device"
> >> >>>       Identifier      "Configured Video Device"
> >> >>>       Driver          "nvidia"
> >> >>> EndSection
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Section "Monitor"
> >> >>>       Identifier      "Configured Monitor"
> >> >>> EndSection
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Section "Screen"
> >> >>>       Identifier      "Default Screen"
> >> >>>       Monitor         "Configured Monitor"
> >> >>>       Device          "Configured Video Device"
> >> >>> EndSection
> >> >>> Section "Module"
> >> >>>       Load "glx"
> >> >>> EndSection
> >> >>> ramon en ramon-desktop:~$
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>> El jue, 07-10-2010 a las 15:44 -0430, Rolando Blanco escribió:
> >> >>> > Por favor muestrame el contenido del archivo xorg.conf con el comando:
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > Te adelanto, que el Log dice que no es posible cargar el modulo del xorg
> >> >>> > para nvidia, pero vamos a ver que tienes en el xorg
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 4:08 PM, Robert Rondon <rrondonc en gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>> >
> >> >>> > > Estoy trabajando en recovery mode en modo grafico seguro que es donde
> >> >>> > > puedo ver el escritorio.
> >> >>> > >
> >> >>> > > Aqui esta el resultado de los comandos:
> >> >>> > >
> >> >>> > > ramon en ramon-desktop:~$ lspci -vvvn
> >> >>> > > 00:00.0 0600: 8086:1a30 (rev 03)
> >> >>> > >        Subsystem: 8086:1a30
> >> >>> > >        Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr-
> >> >>> > > Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
> >> >>> > >        Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort-
> >> >>> > > <TAbort-
> >> >>> > > <MAbort+ >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
> >> >>> > >        Latency: 0
> >> >>> > >        Region 0: Memory at e0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=64M]
> >> >>> > >        Capabilities: <access denied>
> >> >>> > >        Kernel driver in use: agpgart-intel
> >> >>> > >        Kernel modules: intel-agp
> >> >>> > >
> >> >>> > > 00:01.0 0604: 8086:1a31 (rev 03)
> >> >>> > >        Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr-
> >> >>> > > Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- DisINTx-
> >> >>> > >        Status: Cap- 66MHz+ UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort-
> >> >>> > > <TAbort-
> >> >>> > > <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
> >> >>> > >        Latency: 64
> >> >>> > >        Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=01, sec-latency=32
> >> >>> > >        I/O behind bridge: 0000f000-00000fff
> >> >>> > >        Memory behind bridge: e6000000-e7ffffff
> >> >>> > >        Prefetchable memory behind bridge: e4000000-e5ffffff
> >> >>> > >        Secondary status: 66MHz+ FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort-
> >> >>> > > <TAbort- <MAbort+ <SERR- <PERR-
> >> >>> > >        BridgeCtl: Parity- SERR+ NoISA+ VGA+ MAbort- >Reset- FastB2B-
> >> >>> > >                PriDiscTmr- SecDiscTmr- DiscTmrStat- DiscTmrSERREn-
> >> >>> > >        Kernel modules: shpchp
> >> >>> > >
> >> >>> > > 00:1e.0 0604: 8086:244e (rev 12)
> >> >>> > >        Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr-
> >> >>> > > Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- DisINTx-
> >> >>> > >        Status: Cap- 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort-
> >> >>> > > <TAbort-
> >> >>> > > <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
> >> >>> > >        Latency: 0
> >> >>> > >        Bus: primary=00, secondary=02, subordinate=02, sec-latency=32
> >> >>> > >        I/O behind bridge: 0000c000-0000cfff
> >> >>> > >        Memory behind bridge: e8000000-e9ffffff
> >> >>> > >        Prefetchable memory behind bridge: 50000000-500fffff
> >> >>> > >        Secondary status: 66MHz- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort-
> >> >>> > > <TAbort- <MAbort- <SERR- <PERR+
> >> >>> > >        BridgeCtl: Parity- SERR+ NoISA+ VGA- MAbort- >Reset- FastB2B-
> >> >>> > >                PriDiscTmr- SecDiscTmr- DiscTmrStat- DiscTmrSERREn-
> >> >>> > >        Kernel modules: shpchp
> >> >>> > >
> >> >>> > > 00:1f.0 0601: 8086:2440 (rev 12)
> >> >>> > >        Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle+ MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr-
> >> >>> > > Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
> >> >>> > >        Status: Cap- 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort-
> >> >>> > > <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR+ INTx-
> >> >>> > >        Latency: 0
> >> >>> > >        Kernel modules: iTCO_wdt, intel-rng
> >> >>> > >
> >> >>> > > 00:1f.1 0101: 8086:244b (rev 12) (prog-if 80 [Master])
> >> >>> > >        Subsystem: 8086:2442
> >> >>> > >        Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr-
> >> >>> > > Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
> >> >>> > >        Status: Cap- 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort-
> >> >>> > > <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
> >> >>> > >        Latency: 0
> >> >>> > >        Region 0: [virtual] Memory at 000001f0 (32-bit, non-prefetchable)
> >> >>> > > [disabled] [size=8]
> >> >>> > >        Region 1: [virtual] Memory at 000003f0 (type 3, non-prefetchable)
> >> >>> > > [disabled] [size=1]
> >> >>> > >        Region 2: [virtual] Memory at 00000170 (32-bit, non-prefetchable)
> >> >>> > > [disabled] [size=8]
> >> >>> > >        Region 3: [virtual] Memory at 00000370 (type 3, non-prefetchable)
> >> >>> > > [disabled] [size=1]
> >> >>> > >        Region 4: I/O ports at f000 [size=16]
> >> >>> > >        Kernel driver in use: ata_piix
> >> >>> > >
> >> >>> > > 00:1f.2 0c03: 8086:2442 (rev 12)
> >> >>> > >        Subsystem: 8086:2442
> >> >>> > >        Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr-
> >> >>> > > Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
> >> >>> > >        Status: Cap- 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort-
> >> >>> > > <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
> >> >>> > >        Latency: 0
> >> >>> > >        Interrupt: pin D routed to IRQ 11
> >> >>> > >        Region 4: I/O ports at d000 [size=32]
> >> >>> > >        Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
> >> >>> > >
> >> >>> > > 00:1f.3 0c05: 8086:2443 (rev 12)
> >> >>> > >        Subsystem: 8086:2442
> >> >>> > >        Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster- SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr-
> >> >>> > > Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
> >> >>> > >        Status: Cap- 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort-
> >> >>> > > <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
> >> >>> > >        Interrupt: pin B routed to IRQ 5
> >> >>> > >        Region 4: I/O ports at 0500 [size=16]
> >> >>> > >        Kernel modules: i2c-i801
> >> >>> > >
> >> >>> > > 00:1f.4 0c03: 8086:2444 (rev 12)
> >> >>> > >        Subsystem: 8086:2442
> >> >>> > >        Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr-
> >> >>> > > Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
> >> >>> > >        Status: Cap- 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort-
> >> >>> > > <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
> >> >>> > >        Latency: 0
> >> >>> > >        Interrupt: pin C routed to IRQ 9
> >> >>> > >        Region 4: I/O ports at d800 [size=32]
> >> >>> > >        Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
> >> >>> > >
> >> >>> > > 00:1f.5 0401: 8086:2445 (rev 12)
> >> >>> > >        Subsystem: 414c:4710
> >> >>> > >        Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr-
> >> >>> > > Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
> >> >>> > >        Status: Cap- 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort-
> >> >>> > > <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
> >> >>> > >        Latency: 0
> >> >>> > >        Interrupt: pin B routed to IRQ 5
> >> >>> > >        Region 0: I/O ports at dc00 [size=256]
> >> >>> > >        Region 1: I/O ports at e000 [size=64]
> >> >>> > >        Kernel driver in use: Intel ICH
> >> >>> > >        Kernel modules: snd-intel8x0
> >> >>> > >
> >> >>> > > 01:00.0 0300: 10de:002d (rev 15)
> >> >>> > >        Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr-
> >> >>> > > Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
> >> >>> > >        Status: Cap+ 66MHz+ UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort-
> >> >>> > > <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
> >> >>> > >        Latency: 32 (1250ns min, 250ns max)
> >> >>> > >        Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 10
> >> >>> > >        Region 0: Memory at e6000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]
> >> >>> > >        Region 1: Memory at e4000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=32M]
> >> >>> > >        [virtual] Expansion ROM at e7000000 [disabled] [size=64K]
> >> >>> > >        Capabilities: <access denied>
> >> >>> > >        Kernel driver in use: nouveau
> >> >>> > >        Kernel modules: nvidiafb, rivafb, nouveau
> >> >>> > >
> >> >>> > > 02:0a.0 0200: 13f0:0200 (rev 31)
> >> >>> > >        Subsystem: 13f0:0201
> >> >>> > >        Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr-
> >> >>> > > Stepping- SERR- FastB2B- DisINTx-
> >> >>> > >        Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort+
> >> >>> > > <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
> >> >>> > >        Latency: 32 (2500ns min, 2500ns max), Cache Line Size: 32 bytes
> >> >>> > >        Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 11
> >> >>> > >        Region 0: I/O ports at c000 [size=128]
> >> >>> > >        Region 1: Memory at e9000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=512]
> >> >>> > >        [virtual] Expansion ROM at 50000000 [disabled] [size=64K]
> >> >>> > >        Capabilities: <access denied>
> >> >>> > >        Kernel driver in use: sundance
> >> >>> > >        Kernel modules: sundance
> >> >>> > >
> >> >>> > >
> >> >>> > > ramon en ramon-desktop:~$ ls -C video
> >> >>> > > ls: no se puede acceder a video: No existe el archivo o directorio
> >> >>> > > ramon en ramon-desktop:~$ lshw -C video
> >> >>> > > WARNING: you should run this program as super-user.
> >> >>> > >  *-display
> >> >>> > >       description: VGA compatible controller
> >> >>> > >       product: NV5M64 [RIVA TNT2 Model 64/Model 64 Pro]
> >> >>> > >       vendor: nVidia Corporation
> >> >>> > >       physical id: 0
> >> >>> > >       bus info: pci en 0000:01:00.0
> >> >>> > >       version: 15
> >> >>> > >       width: 32 bits
> >> >>> > >       clock: 66MHz
> >> >>> > >       capabilities: bus_master cap_list rom
> >> >>> > >       configuration: driver=nouveau latency=32 maxlatency=1 mingnt=5
> >> >>> > >       resources: irq:10 memory:e6000000-e6ffffff
> >> >>> > > memory:e4000000-e5ffffff(prefetchable)
> >> >>> > > memory:e7000000-e700ffff(prefetchable)
> >> >>> > > ramon en ramon-desktop:~$
> >> >>> > >
> >> >>> > > ramon en ramon-desktop:~$ lsmod
> >> >>> > > Module                  Size  Used by
> >> >>> > > nls_iso8859_1           3249  1
> >> >>> > > nls_cp437               4919  1
> >> >>> > > vfat                    8933  1
> >> >>> > > fat                    47767  1 vfat
> >> >>> > > fbcon                  35102  71
> >> >>> > > tileblit                2031  1 fbcon
> >> >>> > > font                    7557  1 fbcon
> >> >>> > > bitblit                 4707  1 fbcon
> >> >>> > > softcursor              1189  1 bitblit
> >> >>> > > vga16fb                11385  0
> >> >>> > > vgastate                8961  1 vga16fb
> >> >>> > > snd_intel8x0           25588  2
> >> >>> > > snd_ac97_codec        100646  1 snd_intel8x0
> >> >>> > > ac97_bus                1002  1 snd_ac97_codec
> >> >>> > > snd_pcm_oss            35308  0
> >> >>> > > snd_mixer_oss          13746  1 snd_pcm_oss
> >> >>> > > snd_pcm                70694  3 snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss
> >> >>> > > snd_seq_dummy           1338  0
> >> >>> > > snd_seq_oss            26726  0
> >> >>> > > snd_seq_midi            4557  0
> >> >>> > > snd_rawmidi            19056  1 snd_seq_midi
> >> >>> > > snd_seq_midi_event      6003  2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi
> >> >>> > > snd_seq                47263  6
> >> >>> > > snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event
> >> >>> > > nouveau               467048  3
> >> >>> > > snd_timer              19098  2 snd_pcm,snd_seq
> >> >>> > > ttm                    49943  1 nouveau
> >> >>> > > snd_seq_device          5700  5
> >> >>> > > snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq
> >> >>> > > drm_kms_helper         29297  1 nouveau
> >> >>> > > snd                    54148  14
> >> >>> > >
> >> >>> > > snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_seq_oss,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device
> >> >>> > > ppdev                   5259  0
> >> >>> > > drm                   162409  3 nouveau,ttm,drm_kms_helper
> >> >>> > > ns558                   3056  0
> >> >>> > > soundcore               6620  1 snd
> >> >>> > > i2c_algo_bit            5028  1 nouveau
> >> >>> > > psmouse                63245  0
> >> >>> > > intel_agp              24119  1
> >> >>> > > lp                      7060  0
> >> >>> > > parport_pc             25962  1
> >> >>> > > snd_page_alloc          7076  2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm
> >> >>> > > serio_raw               3978  0
> >> >>> > > gameport                9089  2 ns558
> >> >>> > > shpchp                 28820  0
> >> >>> > > agpgart                31724  3 ttm,drm,intel_agp
> >> >>> > > parport                32635  3 ppdev,lp,parport_pc
> >> >>> > > usb_storage            39553  1
> >> >>> > > sundance               16670  0
> >> >>> > > mii                     4381  1 sundance
> >> >>> > > floppy                 53016  0
> >> >>> > > ramon en ramon-desktop:~$
> >> >>> > >
> >> >>> > > ramon en ramon-desktop:~$ sudo cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE
> >> >>> > > [sudo] password for ramon:
> >> >>> > >        (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
> >> >>> > > (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
> >> >>> > > (EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0)
> >> >>> > > (EE) No drivers available.
> >> >>> > > ramon en ramon-desktop:~$
> >> >>> > >
> >> >>> > >
> >> >>> > >
> >> >>> > >
> >> >>> > >
> >> >>> > >
> >> >>> > > El jue, 07-10-2010 a las 15:10 -0430, Rolando Blanco escribió:
> >> >>> > > > Coloca acá el resultado de los comandos:
> >> >>> > > >
> >> >>> > > > lspci -vvvn
> >> >>> > > >
> >> >>> > > > lshw -C video
> >> >>> > > >
> >> >>> > > > lsmod
> >> >>> > > >
> >> >>> > > > y
> >> >>> > > >
> >> >>> > > > sudo cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE
> >> >>> > > >
> >> >>> > > > Gracias de antemano,
> >> >>> > > >
> >> >>> > > > Saludos
> >> >>> > > >
> >> >>> > > > 2010/10/7 Robert Rondon <rrondonc en gmail.com>
> >> >>> > > >
> >> >>> > > > > Buenas, despues de ver la explicaciones a <elwuilmer M atrevo a
> >> >>> > > > > preguntar tambien Tengo instala ubuntu en una maquina con una tarjeta
> >> >>> > > de
> >> >>> > > > > video tnt2 riva 64 pro. (es viejita). Funcionaba bien hasta realizar
> >> >>> > > las
> >> >>> > > > > ultimas actualizaciones disponibles en Ubuntu. Incluso se actualizó el
> >> >>> > > > > kernel a 2.6.32.25
> >> >>> > > > >
> >> >>> > > > > Alguna ayuda
> >> >>> > > > >
> >> >>> > > > > Saludos
> >> >>> > > > >
> >> >>> > > > > --
> >> >>> > > > > Robert Rondón
> >> >>> > > > > email:rrondonc en gmail.com <email%3Arrondonc en gmail.com> <
> >> >>> > > email%3Arrondonc en gmail.com <email%253Arrondonc en gmail.com>>
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> >> >>> > > > >
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> >> > --
> >> > Ricardo C. Fernández de C.
> >> > Caracas - Venezuela
> >> > http://koshrf.fercusoft.com/
> >> > http://www.neotechgw.com/
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
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