Questions about Linux Mint and this list

[Bret Busby]

On 20/7/22 5:12 pm, Oliver Grawert wrote:
> hi,
> Am Dienstag, dem 19.07.2022 um 23:33 +0100 schrieb Peter Flynn:
>> On 19/07/2022 21:39, Ian Bruntlett wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On Tue, 19 Jul 2022 at 00:55, Dave Stevens via ubuntu-users
>>> <
>>> ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com <mailto:ubuntu-users at lists.ubuntu.com>
>>>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>      On Tue, 19 Jul 2022 00:02:59 +0100
>>>      Peter Flynn <peter at silmaril.ie <mailto:peter at silmaril.ie>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>       > so I'm going to try 22.04 this week.
>>>
>>>      please let us know how it works out, I'm thinking of the same
>>> thing.
>>
>> I just fired it up from USB on my Dell XPS laptop.
>>
>> The most glaring error came up in the first couple of minutes of
>> boot:
>> the rotating spinner just vanishes from the screen, so the user has
>> no
>> idea if the system has hung or if it's running something behind the
>> scenes so critical that it even has to usurp the cycles given to the
>> spinner.
> 
> what do you expect to achieve by reporting it to the ubuntu-users
> mailing list ? none of the developers working on the new installer read
> along here, if you actually want to get it fixed, you should post on th
> thread that asks for feedback to improve the installer experience on
> discourse.ubuntu.com, that was in fact the reason i linked it in this
> thread above ... ther are chances to fix it "after decades" *if* you
> let the people know that *can* fix it (and that asked explicitl for
> feedback ...
>>
>> OK, I don't expect that ever to be fixed: it's been a problem for a
>> couple of decades, and no-one seems to think it's important. I've
>> seen
>> new users literally get up and walk away permanently from Linux
>> installs
>> because the cursor or spinner or whatever that was signalling "I'm
>> working" disappeared and left no information.
>> ...
> 
>> Second major blunder: the Software Center or whatever the fancy GUI
>> interface to apt is called HAS NO SEARCH!
> 
> the redhat developers maintaining GNOME have decided to move many UI
> elements in unusual places ... if you look around a little you will
> find that big looking glass icon at the very top left of the window ...
>   
> in ubuntu every change to the redhat/fedora/GNOME UI decisions means to
> maintain a work intense patch set on top of the upstream code, so while
> the removal of all desktop icons and interaction by GNOME has been
> addressed through adding a fulltime developer of the ubuntu desktop
> team to work on a solution and likewise the addition of a proper panel
> has been addressed, the re-ordering of UI elements has not.
> 
> in general you will find many UI elements in the newer GNOME versions
> in odd places that take a while to gt used to ... things like search
> buttons (or the close/accept/cancel buttons in dialogs) will simply
> take a while to get used to, but there is not much ubuntu developers
> can do about it ...
> 
> 
> instead of complaining in a mailing list, did you consider to file bugs
> ?
> 
> the 22.04 release is still not the official LTS (like any ubuntu LTS
> releases it only becomes that with the .1 release (for 22.04 that will
> be in the first week of august)) for exactly the reason to collect
> feedback, bugs and have the ability to add fixes for the glaring issues
> ... if you run such a "pre-release" version you should really use
> ubuntu-bug to report your issues to get them fixed in time ...
> 
> ciao
> 	oli
> 
> 

Interesting how some users seem to think that Ubuntu 22.04 is a 
derivative of Linux Mint (see the thread subject field).

:)

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Bret Busby
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West Australia
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