Plasma update?

[Liam Proven]

On Tue, 20 Dec 2022 at 20:16, rikona <rikona at sonic.net> wrote:

> The window popped up by itself, not by anything I did, so I had no idea
> why it was there. I could close it, but in a while it would pop up
> again. Reminded me of the snap popup behavior I saw earlier. Is there a
> way I could tell what program caused it?

Without seeing it -- and, TBH, more familiarity with Kubuntu -- I can't say.

But standard vanilla Ubuntu itself does show upgrade reminders, yes.

It could be like this:
https://c-nergy.be/blog/?p=15689

... for a distro version upgrade

Or like this:
https://superuser.com/questions/1600131/how-can-i-configure-the-lubuntu-update-notifier-to-pop-up-less-often

... for updates to your current distro version.

> Interestingly, after I DID click on 'update', which was a complete
> failure, the popup has not come back. So it looks like SOME pgm thinks
> I actually DID an update. :-)

Well good!

As I have said elsewhere: I do a full update on all my machines every
day. It prevents nasty surprises.

> OK - I finally get it. Thanks.

OK, good.

> Part of the confusion was the large
> number of 'failure' descriptions I saw on the net, where the fix was a
> complete reinstall. Or, install Ubuntu and then add the KDE desktop.

Got any examples?

> <snip a great food-based description> :-)

Well, car-based ones are traditional in this business, but it seemed
more appropriate.

> Need to do it soon before the milk becomes buttermilk. :-))

Exactly so.

The thing is, from the first version, 4.10, Ubuntu came with GNOME.
Unity was based on some GNOME tech and parts. Ubuntu's twice-yearly
release cycle was originally designed to sync with GNOME's.

It doesn't any more but that was the plan.

It does _not_ sync with KDE release cycles. In fact sometimes it
clashes with them.

> OK - I'm assuming it does not update other software, such as Pale Moon, Claws mail, etc.

Aaaah. Oh dear. When you said you had got it, I was wondering. You
have not got it.

Look, the official way to install software on Ubuntu is by getting it
from Ubuntu's  repositories.

But you can also add new repositories and install extras from them.
Like KDE in my article.

Then, that _becomes part of the system_. When you update, they get
updated to. But if you add, say, KDE 5.25, and then  keep updating,
and eventually Ubuntu adopts 5.25, and then later 5.26, then no, the
external repos version may stay what it was... but newer stuff comes
from the standard repos.

It is not a yes/no sort of answer.

But if you add software from the built-in Ubuntu repositories,
whatever it is, then yes, it is part of the OS and it will get
upgraded with the rest of the OS. Even if you upgrade the OS to a new
version.

HOWEVER, if  you add *new* repositories, then when you upgrade, those
are disabled, and whatever came from them stops getting updated.

This is one of the issues that Snap fixes. (And Flatpak.)

> Understood, and I agree. GUI stuff can be hard to describe, especially
> if some error occurred which is not evident in the GUI.

Very.

So my advice is: learn to use the  terminal to update. It's simpler
and more reliable, in the long run.


> Good article. Wish I had seen it earlier. #2 has a floating taskbar,
> and yes that might be missed, and rather hard to describe well.

That's the one, yes. As mentioned in the caption, of course.

> Thanks again, much appreciate your help and wisdom,

:-) You are welcome!

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