Replacements for Firefox and Thunderbird?

[Chris Green]

On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 11:16:27AM +0000, Peter Flynn wrote:
> On 14/01/2021 04:54, Kaj Haulrich wrote:
> [...]
> > Thanks for all your responses. Yes, my concerns about Mozilla are
> > described well here:
> 
> I don't see anything concrete there that doesn't happen in other browsers.
> 
I agree, it didn't seem to me that there was anything very specific in those
criticisms.

> 
> Sure I'm letting Google see what I'm doing, but that's the price of having a
> browser that works most of the time. Each of the others, especially Safari,
> falls over when it encounters complex e-commerce sites, or even simple
> forms, because developers only write for Chrome, and insist on using ever
> more arcane and unstable frameworks.
> 
All of the suppliers that I use seem to support 'any old browser'.  A
site that doesn't is a seller who doesn't really care about their
customers.

By the way, what hooks does Google have if one doesn't use its search?


> Evolution is an even bigger bloat than Chrome, sucking cycles like there's
> no tomorrow, and running all kinds of stuff in the background. Claws is
> bare-bones and has the ugliest interface I have ever seen.
> TBird, for all its faults, has a few facilities critical for my work that
> don't seem to exist in other MUAs: drag and drop messages between different
> accounts; a Redirect plugin (different from Forward); and an excellent
> Exchange plugin (Owl).
> 
Agreed, Evolution is a disaster, it's difficult to disentangle oneself
from it completely though if you use any Gnome related distribution.  


> The one thing missing from every MUA except mutt is the ability to rethread
> a message. Many times I get a message with the same subject as previous
> messages in a discussion, but missing the In-Reply-To and References headers
> (because the author is using some crap MUA that doesn't understand them). So
> it appears on its own, out of the thread, and may even have replies of it
> own. mutt lets you push it into the thread where it belongs (rewriting the
> headers so it stays there). No-one has ever written a plugin for any other
> MUA to do this, AFAICS.
> 
So use mutt, I do.  :-)

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Chris Green