Zoom client on lubuntu 18.4

[Oliver Grawert]

hi,
Am Donnerstag, den 18.02.2021, 12:03 +0000 schrieb Chris Green:
> 
> > So we have some hope. I much prefer repositories than SNAP!
> > 
> Yes, I agree, snap and similar solutions are just temporary 'sticking
> plaster' fixes IMHO.  If everything moved to snap our disk drives
> would be full again and every time there was a security fix in a
> basic
> library we'd have to re-install every snap application that used it.

not sure what makes you think this, snaps are way higher compressed
than deb files and get never unpackaed anywhere on disk (they are
readonly, gpg signed squashfs images that get loop mounted under
/snap). 

if you would install the same software (including its library
dependencies that are usually newer than what the distro provides i.e.
from a PPA) as deb packages the disk footprint would be a lot larger.

snaps are exclusively updating via binary deltas, if one line in a snap
gets updated, you only download the binary delta that single line
changed, nothing more.

snaps auto-update automaticlly (like the apps on your android or IOS
phone), there is no need for you to watch out for updates in any way or
to manually trigger a refresh ... snap developers get informed by mail
if their package ships a vulnerable lib and get encouraged to trigger a
simple rebuild to have the package pick it up. 

> 
> It's mainly only needed because everyone wants the very latest
> version
> of a program and aren't patient enough for the next release of the
> underlying OS.

this is probably true for some desktop snaps, note that a major amount
of snaps in the store is not desktop focused at all but used in
server/cloud setups, IoT devices, embedded computing, industrial PLCs,
cars, robots, AI, there the strict confinement, the built-in automatic
self-tests and along with that the automatic rollback that guarantees
you completely fail-safe operation are rather the selling point, some
newer version is really just a desktop thing ...

> 
> The ultimate solution would be to have a separate computer for each
> program, that's where snap is trying to move us. :-)
> 
this is exactly what snaps already do today, each snap runs in its own
namespace under apparmor confinement with very strict process control
so it can not spy on other processes running on your host without your
direct consent, just like your android or IOS apps on a phone.

There are sadly many nonsense myths around snap out there ...

Snaps wont go away they are widely used in businesses around the world
since 2014 (and on desktops since 2016) ... and i'd prefer a snap over
a PPA any day given that adding a PPA means i give full root access to
my system to some random PPA owner i do not know.

ciao
	oli
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