Another problem upgrading to 19.10

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 17:19:35 +0200, Liam Proven wrote:
>It's one reason I only run LTS releases on machines I actually need to
>_use_ for stuff. It's also why I don't run GNOME on anything I need to
>work.

GTK is a major dependency for a lot of desktop apps, even those who
prefers a Qt based environment over a GTK environment most likely need
several GTK apps. GTK2 apps already cause issues on several machines
and nobody knows when GTK2 will completely be abandoned. GTK3 already
introduced a minor annoyance with CSD. Actually on the Xfce mailing
list some subscribers are scared about the migration of Xfce to CSD and
some fear the need of another GNOME/Mate alike fork for Xfce. However,
I guess we need to get used to "progress" that sometimes is a step in
the wrong direction. Migrating from one to another distro could slow
down unwanted changes, but it will not stop inconveniences for very
long.

Actually I'll stay as long as possible with 16.04 LTS, but in parallel
I need to run Arch (if it wouldn't be Arch, then it would be something
similar non-LTS) to be able to fulfil dependencies for some needed up to
date apps.

Even with those annoyances Linux still gives us a choice we do not have
when using proprietary operating systems. By one way or another I also
need to run proprietary operating systems since no FLOSS OS (Linux/BSD)
provides all I need, but IMO FLOSS OS even with some steps in the wrong
direction, still provides some benefits over proprietary operating
systems, let alone that proprietary operating systems don't provide
some apps, in some domains, that are quite good on Linux. For example,
for iPadOS there's no reasonable MUA available, even a non-perfect
Linux MUA running on a Linux desktop environment I dislike, is still
less annoying than any iPadOS MUA I know.

I'm already used to depend on more than one computer, multi-boot,
wine(-staging) and VMs. I've given up the idea of one computer for all
domains.