name resolution

Nils Kassube kassube at gmx.net
Fri Nov 24 19:32:19 UTC 2017


Xen wrote:
> Nils Kassube schreef op 24-11-2017 8:07:
> > Xen wrote:
> >> So by all extents and purposes, you should put mDNS AFTER DNS,
> >> unless
> >> of course
> >> 
> >> YOU WANT TO EXTINGUISH THE USE OF THE LOCAL DOMAIN BY FORCIBLE
> >> MEASURES.
> >> 
> >> Which they are doing.
> >> 
> >> Not practical necessity.
> >> 
> >> Politics.
> > 
> > As I understand it, you are not supposed to use any private domain
> > names.
> 
> This is fucking bullshit of course.
> 
> I mean why don't you stop telling such things.
> 
> > Otherwise ICANN would have reserved a specific domain name for
> > private use, just like there are private IP adresses.
> 
> There was no necessity because the number of top level domains was
> very limited.
> 
> This was different with IPs, so your conclusion doesn't follow.
> 
> There were so few tlds, and none with anything longer than 3
> characters, that no trouble ever arose and also didn't need to be
> governed.

Well that was a long time ago. Things have changed and nowadays there 
are many TLDs with more than three characters: 
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Internet_top-level_domains>.

> This does not equate "Are not supposed to use it."

Granted, I may have used the wrong words ...

> > So if you use an
> > unregistered domain name you are on your own and have to live with
> > the consequences if it gets assigned for something else.
> 
> Assigned for what?
> 
> For registration?

For registration or other special purpose like the .local domain.

> We are not talking about domain names. We are talking about top level
> domains.
> 
> Of which about 10 existed + country codes.
> 
> You don't even seem to see the difference.
> 
> > If you want to
> > avoid that the domain name of your LAN is in use or gets "stolen" by
> > someone else, you should register a domain.
> 
> Yes, you don't see the difference.

I do see the difference even if I didn't explain it. You would register 
a domain like example.com and use a subdomain on your lan like 
local.example.com. Yes, that means that you have a third level domain on 
your lan, but is it really necessary to use a top level domain on your 
lan?

> How does one, oh great Nils, register a top level domain for private
> use?

Ask Microsoft - they have registered .microsoft.

> Tell me how an individual can register a top level domain just for him
> or herself.

I'm not sure if it is possible at all for individuals but it would cost 
you a bit more than a second level domain. :)


Nils





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