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[Petter Adsen]

On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 09:41:27 -0500
Gene Heskett <gheskett at wdtv.com> wrote:

> On Saturday 28 November 2015 08:24:56 Petter Adsen wrote:
> 
> > On Sat, 28 Nov 2015 08:07:22 -0500
> >
> > Gene Heskett <gheskett at wdtv.com> wrote:  
> > > It seems like the underlieing ncurses interface for mc is getting
> > > easier and easier to destroy, but mc is still the king of 2 pane
> > > file managers. Anything that is a one window file manager is
> > > operating under a false name IMNSHO.  
> >
> > Then take a look at SpaceFM if you want a graphical file manager, it
> > can have up to four panels in any single window. The scripting
> > support goes far beyond anything mc has. I've used mc a lot (and
> > Norton Commander in days long gone) but now rely on SpaceFM for
> > day-to-day use.
> >
> > Petter  
> 
> I just installed the gtk3 version to see what it looked like.  What
> it looked like was a 1 pane file locator that couldn't even find *,
> and I could not find in the menu's, any way to configure it as a 2
> pane file manager.  So I nuked it.

You can't have looked very hard ;) View -> Panel 2 (or 3 or 4). You can
enable more than one of them at a time, so you can get up to 4 panes,
as I said earlier.

> I just looked at thunar again since it seems to be part of the wheezy 
> install, and again, while it can show me any file on my home network 
> that I have the rights to see, 10 minutes worth of browsing the
> menu's didn't discover a 2 pane setup, so I wasn't even able to copy
> a file from one place to another.

No, I think Thunar needs you to open two windows.

> We do NOT have a "graphical" file manager worthy of the name until we 
> have both a pretty face, AND the capabilities of mc.  Preferably with 
> the same hotkeys so we don't have to break 18 year old habits that go 
> clear back to the amiga and amigados.

The scripting capabilites of SpaceFM takes it *far* beyond most file
managers I have ever seen. A file manager with AREXX scripting on
AmigaDOS would be a fair comparison, but I can't remember any.

> If you know how to make spacefm-gtk3 behave in a manner similar to
> mc, please expand on the howto, or possibly its man page, which I did
> not peruse, so I have to clue if it even has one.  I'll put it back
> in and try it again.

Try Help -> FAQ or Help -> User Manual.

> And on the reinstall (had also since installed kino and some other
> stuff whose lengthy dependencies pulled in may have effected
> spacefm's gtk3 interface) and its a whole different utility now.  But
> I couldn't find "copy" in the menu's, so I guess I'll have to get
> used to drag-n-drop. Attempted overwrites were suitably intercepted,
> and when ok'd, it did it.

Right click a file/dir, and take a look at the Actions menu. You can
assign keybindings to those actions the normal GTK way.

> I'll try and get used to it.  But where's the adjust the perms menu's
> etc that I often run a root session of mc for?

Right click a file/dir, Properties -> Permissions (or Quick), and
Properties -> Root to adjust permissions as root.

> While its pretty, unless that stuff can be handled by using lsattr, 
> chattr, chown and chmod as plugins, its still far from as complete as
> a real file manager like mc is.

Take a look at adding functionality via the Tools menu. You need to
click around a bit and make yourself familiar with the functionality
there, but it is really powerful. If you select to run a script instead
of a command, it gives you a template script with comments describing
the various variables SpaceFM sets for your use, etc. Check out the
manual also.

> What I don't grok was why it was so crippled the first time I
> installed it...  It did not drag in any dependencies, even w/o the
> gtk3 face. Should it have?

It doesn't have many dependencies, so no.

> In the meantime I have to teach meself how to use tool length offsets
> in LinuxCNC, and go make another 150 or so screw cover plugs out of
> ebony which takes two different cutting tools in my cnc milling
> machine.  But I'll be out of ebony before thats done.  More on
> order.  Its in the $150 bd/ft price range.
> 
> Thanks Petter.
> 
> -- <--you don't have a space there, so your sig got copied into my
> reply.  

I'm pretty sure I do, Claws Mail inserts the sig separator
automatically. I can even see the trailing space both in my previous
message and in this one, so it might be your client.

Petter

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