Probably stupid question, but

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On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Robert Holtzman <holtzm at cox.net> wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 05, 2013 at 09:51:16AM +0200, Patrick Asselman wrote:
>> On 2013-09-04 22:39, Robert Holtzm wrote:
>> >On Wed, Sep 04, 2013 at 08:38:17AM -0400, Gene Heskett wrote:
>> >
>> >       ........snip.......
>> >>
>> >>I am 100% with Patrick on this. NM is NOT ready for prime time,
>> >>chase it
>> >>out of the barn with a load of buckshot in its behind & don't
>> >>let it back
>> >>on the property until it can play nice.
>> >
>> >I accept the fact that you've had problems w/ NM, but how do you
>> >account
>> >for the thousands of users who use it successfully every day? If it
>> >were wide spread I would think there would be a flood of messages on
>> >this list and on the forums. But then what do I know?
>>
>> For your amusement, here is the result of 5 seconds on Google:
>> http://cholla.mmto.org/computers/linux/nm.html
>> http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=220376
>> http://marc.merlins.org/perso/linux/post_2009-07-19_Upgraded-to-Jaunty_-Network-Manager-Still-Sucks-Balls_-2_6_30_1-not-that-stable_-and-Comcast-Business-Exceeding-Expectations.html
>> http://saveandrewgarib.com/?articleid=221
>> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1359938.html
>>
>> But please note that all of those links are a few years old.
>
> As you say, these are a few years old. IIRC during that time period I
> was running ubuntu and had problems with nm. Wound up going to wicd.
> A year or so ago I dumped ubuntu because I got a belly full of
> Marvelous Mark and went to debian. It installed nm which worked
> perfectly and does to this day.
>>
>>
>> What seems to have happened is that more and more people used Linux
>> on laptops, and there was no tool for properly handling wifi
>> connections. NM did that bit pretty well, so it was added to
>> Linux... but it seems they forgot that NM was maybe not the best
>> thing for some non-wifi applications.
>>
>> NM seems to have matured now, and it is probably a great tool,
>> unifying network setup in all the different distros.
>> Maybe it was introduced too soon.
>> Or maybe we should just accept that such a unification process will
>> always burn a minority before becoming an improvement for (almost)
>> everyone.
>
> That's true for almost all software. The devs aren't mind readers and
> can't anticipate everyones' hardware or what tweaks they have applied to
> the os.
>
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