SSD migration boot option problem

lazer100 lazer100 at talktalk.net
Wed Feb 27 08:44:43 UTC 2013


On 26-Feb-13 11:49:44 Nils Kassube wrote:
>lazer100 wrote:
>> On 26-Feb-13 03:11:17 Nils Kassube wrote:
>> >Am Montag, 25. Februar 2013, 20:52:15 schrieb lazer100:
>> >> On 25-Feb-13 21:59:18 Nils Kassube wrote:
>> >> >Am Montag, 25. Februar 2013, 11:52:57 schrieb lazer100:
>> >> >> I just wonder if they could put all the boot partitions, with
>> >> >> the ones they dont want active commented out with #
>> >> >
>> >> >What do you mean with "they"? The automagic kernel list is
>> >> >generated
>> >> >by update-grub which is run by installation scripts e.g. for
>> >> >installing new kernel packages. Your problem seems to be that the
>> >> >update-grub script only finds a single Windows partition.
>> >> 
>> >> what I meant was the people who wrote the scripts that generate
>> >> /boot/grub/menu.lst
>> >
>> >Ah, OK - I suppose they just include every OS found. But as that old
>> >grub version with menu.lst is obsolete, I wouldn't expect any future
>> >changes to that script.
>> >
>> >> >> titleUbuntu 8.10, kernel 2.6.27-7-generic
>> >> >
>> >> >I hope you are aware that this is an ancient Ubuntu version for
>> >> >which
>> >> >the support has ended nearly 3 years ago ...
>> >> 
>> >> yes, but I prefer it to later versions, and it has everything that
>> >> I
>> >> need!
>> >> 
>> >> later versions are becoming more like Windows,
>> >:
>> >:)
>> >
>> >Actually I think, Ubuntu tries to become more like MacOS than
>> >Windows. Perhaps you should have a look at the other Ubuntu
>> >flavours: Kubuntu, Lubuntu, Xubuntu.
>> 
>> what is the idea of these versus the standard Ubuntu?

>They use different desktop versions and differ from the the demands on 
>system ressources and Windows similarity. See the Wikipedia entries for 
>a detailed description:
><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kubuntu>
><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lubuntu>
><http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xubuntu>

>> but what is the earliest Ubuntu you could instal to a logical
>> partition?

>The first Ubuntu version I have used was 6.06 but I suppose earlier 
>versions could be installed to logical partitions as well. It isn't a 
>new feature.

>> I didnt know you could opt out of the swap partition,
>> currently I have 4G of ram,

>While you can opt out of a swap partition, there are of course reasons 
>to use one. E.g. if you want to hibernate the machine, you need one. 

>> the other thing I thought was if I install a current version of Ubuntu
>> to say a logical partition, would that create boot options for the
>> earlier Ubuntu and logical partition XP?

>I have no idea if the current grub2 knows how to handle Windows in a 
>logical partition. Actually I only have one machine dual booting Windows 
>XP / Linux and there Windows is on sda1. And my second Windows system is 
>Windows only inside Virtualbox.

I'll install 12.04.2 as that is long term maintenance, and see what happens.
if any problems I have to move XP to a top level partition.

I have to reinstall Ubuntu 8.10 because although it accepts passwords less
than 8 chars, later on a password isnt accepted unless its at least 8 chars.
I have 2 passwords, one is for sudo, which I can change, but the other
is for some encryption, and this leads to problems as I gave a 7 char one.
I need to reinstall from scratch and use the same password 
of at least 8 chars for everything.


the problem with reinstalling Windows from scratch, is I have to then install
the mobo drivers, the gfx card drivers, then reinstall each program,

continually inserting further install CDs. 







>> luckily installation to a solid state drive is considerably faster
>> than installing to magnetic drive, the main cost now is the
>> accessing of the installation CD which isnt fast.

>Then use a USB stick instead of a CD. Of course that would only work if 
>you can boot from USB, but I suppose any machine with 4GB of physical 
>memory is capable of doing that.

in theory the machine can boot from USB, but when I try this, a problem
emerges. its as if the facility has only been partially implemented,
not sure if the problem is BIOS or OS related.

I think I tried installing both Ubuntu 8.10 and XP from USB, and in 
both cases it doesnt work.






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